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so i was all happy to shoot my gun today and well i know its not sticky bolt because when i pushed the bullet forward into the chamber it was fine until i tried to close it shut. i made sure i pushed the bolt fully forward and then i had to push it down really really hard. i was worried so i ejected it and then i put in another round same thing. i worried to fire it but then did and thank god nothing blew up but when i tried to open it woooahh super hard. that may be sticky bolt but we did heat gun it down really good. what do i do?

from CoyoteHunterBlake on 01.04.13

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

instead I returned it (traded it in) and I got another this is a Cadillac compared to the other one. it is a little hard to open when shot even just a dry fire ( probably just needs to be worked in and firing pin needs to be oiled.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Me too MNhunter.

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from 6phunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

since i'm no gunsmith,i'd take it to one.

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from MNwhitetailHunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

this is why i am happy with lever action. doesnt freez, no problems

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from huntfishtrap wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Could be just a factory defect, these were not works of art, remember. It should safe, if nothing happened the first time you shot it.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Also, 7,62 and 7.62 is the same thing. English speaking countries use a period when dealing with numbers, and places such as Russia use a comma.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

-You should try shooting some of the surplus ammunition.
-Where is the ammunition getting scratched when closing/opening the bolt?

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

and it is russian but thats all it says.

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

no and thats what is weird its this stuff that is a white box and says " 7,62x54R 148 GR. FMJ NON-CORROSIVE BERDAN PRIMED" an yes it says 7,62x54R not 7.62x54R

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Where are the cases getting 'scratched'?
-Are you using surplus ammo or something else?

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

ok but will it damage the gun more with the empty round cause with my brothers Remington 700 adl .223 he tried to just show how to work the action to a friend with a empty casing and it got stuck and he had to take a cleaning rod to push it out. and idduckhntr the bolt is really hard to close. I was really afraid to shoot it but I did three times but I am still afraid. it left scratch marks in the casing so it might be a burr. I don't know what a burr in a chamber is but on the right side of the place were the barrel is not in the riffling but the wall kind of right next to it where the casing would touch not the bullet is really rough like think of clay and take a knife to it and score it you know how if you let it dry it is hard with those little little little balls and cuts that are really small and sharp that's what there like compared to my brothers is smooth and flat. the bolt heads are pretty much the same though my brothers might be a little smoother.

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from idduckhntr wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Could be a head space problem or bad brass. If your bolt is real hard to close over a round I would caution shooting it.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I still think it is the extractor. That's why it is easy to work without a bullet in the rifle, but hard with a bullet. I'm not familiar with what the rifle looks like exactly, but try to keep an eye on the extractor while closing the bolt and see if it hangs up once it touches the casing(use the empty casing you shot earlier today). I'm guessing the extractor got bent in a little bit.

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Yesi did pull it into the three pieces and oiled it down . Some things that i have read is that there could be a burr in the chamber. I used a light to check inside the chamber in mine and my brothers his is pretty easy to close while mine is a bugger ( only with a bullet placed in not when it's unloaded then it's fine.) but my brothers has a very smooth surface on the place where the barrel starts ( the wall around the tickling not the actual rifling .) while mine in that same area is rough and crapy is this what they Mean by a but in the chamber? Thanks.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

BTW, based on past experiences I am guessing the extractor is why the bolt wont close.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Did you take the bolt itself apart and oil each part?

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I appreciate all the help but we did disassemble the gun and the bolt and heat gun it down very well. the reason I don't fully think it is sticky bolt is that it is hard to close now the opening part could be but why is it so hard to close.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Probably some cosmoline left over on the bolt/inside the bolt. You will probably need to dissasemble the bolt and clean it all real good(or have a gunsmith do it for you).
-One thing you could try is shooting it until the gun gets hot and see if any of the cosmoline melts and keep wiping it away if it does(pure guess, no idea if this would work).

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Also, 7,62 and 7.62 is the same thing. English speaking countries use a period when dealing with numbers, and places such as Russia use a comma.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Probably some cosmoline left over on the bolt/inside the bolt. You will probably need to dissasemble the bolt and clean it all real good(or have a gunsmith do it for you).
-One thing you could try is shooting it until the gun gets hot and see if any of the cosmoline melts and keep wiping it away if it does(pure guess, no idea if this would work).

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I appreciate all the help but we did disassemble the gun and the bolt and heat gun it down very well. the reason I don't fully think it is sticky bolt is that it is hard to close now the opening part could be but why is it so hard to close.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Did you take the bolt itself apart and oil each part?

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

BTW, based on past experiences I am guessing the extractor is why the bolt wont close.

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Yesi did pull it into the three pieces and oiled it down . Some things that i have read is that there could be a burr in the chamber. I used a light to check inside the chamber in mine and my brothers his is pretty easy to close while mine is a bugger ( only with a bullet placed in not when it's unloaded then it's fine.) but my brothers has a very smooth surface on the place where the barrel starts ( the wall around the tickling not the actual rifling .) while mine in that same area is rough and crapy is this what they Mean by a but in the chamber? Thanks.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

I still think it is the extractor. That's why it is easy to work without a bullet in the rifle, but hard with a bullet. I'm not familiar with what the rifle looks like exactly, but try to keep an eye on the extractor while closing the bolt and see if it hangs up once it touches the casing(use the empty casing you shot earlier today). I'm guessing the extractor got bent in a little bit.

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from idduckhntr wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Could be a head space problem or bad brass. If your bolt is real hard to close over a round I would caution shooting it.

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

ok but will it damage the gun more with the empty round cause with my brothers Remington 700 adl .223 he tried to just show how to work the action to a friend with a empty casing and it got stuck and he had to take a cleaning rod to push it out. and idduckhntr the bolt is really hard to close. I was really afraid to shoot it but I did three times but I am still afraid. it left scratch marks in the casing so it might be a burr. I don't know what a burr in a chamber is but on the right side of the place were the barrel is not in the riffling but the wall kind of right next to it where the casing would touch not the bullet is really rough like think of clay and take a knife to it and score it you know how if you let it dry it is hard with those little little little balls and cuts that are really small and sharp that's what there like compared to my brothers is smooth and flat. the bolt heads are pretty much the same though my brothers might be a little smoother.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Where are the cases getting 'scratched'?
-Are you using surplus ammo or something else?

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

no and thats what is weird its this stuff that is a white box and says " 7,62x54R 148 GR. FMJ NON-CORROSIVE BERDAN PRIMED" an yes it says 7,62x54R not 7.62x54R

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

and it is russian but thats all it says.

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from JM wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

-You should try shooting some of the surplus ammunition.
-Where is the ammunition getting scratched when closing/opening the bolt?

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from MNwhitetailHunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

this is why i am happy with lever action. doesnt freez, no problems

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from huntfishtrap wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Could be just a factory defect, these were not works of art, remember. It should safe, if nothing happened the first time you shot it.

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from 6phunter wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

since i'm no gunsmith,i'd take it to one.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

Me too MNhunter.

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from CoyoteHunterBlake wrote 1 year 27 weeks ago

instead I returned it (traded it in) and I got another this is a Cadillac compared to the other one. it is a little hard to open when shot even just a dry fire ( probably just needs to be worked in and firing pin needs to be oiled.

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