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Hunting with a muzzleloader in southeast mn, is a 300 grain sabot to big? Will use 150 grains of powder

from mndeerhunter on 08.20.09

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from madmax wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

You're going to be punching a pretty good hole with a 300gr bullet - I'm guessing that's in at least a .50 caliber? You may or may not get any expansion on the trip through the ribcage depending on which flavor of sabot you're using, and I'm of the opinion that the leakier you can make your intended quarry, the better. At the same time, if your frontstuffer makes your eyes water and your nose run when you touch one off, it may be worth trying a bit more reduced load.

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from seadog wrote 12 weeks 5 days ago

I'm probably not the best person to answer this, being from the opposite corner of our great country where the big game isn't quite as big, but that sounds like a pretty big load to me.

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from hunter2012 wrote 12 weeks 5 days ago

I shoot 250 grain Thompson Center Shockwaves with 100 grains of Triple Seven Pellets from a .50 caliber muzzleloader. I used to shoot 150 grains of Triple Seven but 100 grains shoots tighter groups (like .5 inch at 100 yds) and I am comfortable with 250 yards on whitetails. I would tend to think that 300 grains would not shoot as straight and drop more but depending what your hunt might be necessary.

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from 87iowabucks wrote 12 weeks 5 days ago

150 grains of powder is to much! yeah the newer loaders are rated to handle the blast of that much powder but the issue you get into in uneven burning or the lack there of! making you believe you rifle is inacurate. I shoot barnes 280 grain x bullets and 120 grains of loose powder. Last fall 309 yd heart shot on a 160" whitetail!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 12 weeks 3 days ago

I use 265 grain 44 cal Hornady .430 44 CAL 265 GR FP item #4300 with a Thompson Center Magnum Sabot and 150 grains of 777 with nail driving accuracy. I'm going to try the .430 44 CAL 265 GR FTX (for 444 Marlin) item #4305 this year. 300 grain is too heavy!

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from Live4Bowhunting wrote 12 weeks 2 days ago

I use 240 Gr. Hornady XTP with 100 gr. of triple seven and took a big mature doe at 75 yards, looked like someone pulled the rug out from under her. Shooting 1-1/2" groups at 150 yards.

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from mndeerhunter wrote 10 weeks 2 days ago

Thanks to all who answred my question. Have gone to a 250 ornady and 110 grains of triple seven. Working great. Thanks again.

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from madmax wrote 12 weeks 6 days ago

You're going to be punching a pretty good hole with a 300gr bullet - I'm guessing that's in at least a .50 caliber? You may or may not get any expansion on the trip through the ribcage depending on which flavor of sabot you're using, and I'm of the opinion that the leakier you can make your intended quarry, the better. At the same time, if your frontstuffer makes your eyes water and your nose run when you touch one off, it may be worth trying a bit more reduced load.

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from hunter2012 wrote 12 weeks 5 days ago

I shoot 250 grain Thompson Center Shockwaves with 100 grains of Triple Seven Pellets from a .50 caliber muzzleloader. I used to shoot 150 grains of Triple Seven but 100 grains shoots tighter groups (like .5 inch at 100 yds) and I am comfortable with 250 yards on whitetails. I would tend to think that 300 grains would not shoot as straight and drop more but depending what your hunt might be necessary.

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from Live4Bowhunting wrote 12 weeks 2 days ago

I use 240 Gr. Hornady XTP with 100 gr. of triple seven and took a big mature doe at 75 yards, looked like someone pulled the rug out from under her. Shooting 1-1/2" groups at 150 yards.

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from seadog wrote 12 weeks 5 days ago

I'm probably not the best person to answer this, being from the opposite corner of our great country where the big game isn't quite as big, but that sounds like a pretty big load to me.

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from 87iowabucks wrote 12 weeks 5 days ago

150 grains of powder is to much! yeah the newer loaders are rated to handle the blast of that much powder but the issue you get into in uneven burning or the lack there of! making you believe you rifle is inacurate. I shoot barnes 280 grain x bullets and 120 grains of loose powder. Last fall 309 yd heart shot on a 160" whitetail!

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from Clay Cooper wrote 12 weeks 3 days ago

I use 265 grain 44 cal Hornady .430 44 CAL 265 GR FP item #4300 with a Thompson Center Magnum Sabot and 150 grains of 777 with nail driving accuracy. I'm going to try the .430 44 CAL 265 GR FTX (for 444 Marlin) item #4305 this year. 300 grain is too heavy!

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from mndeerhunter wrote 10 weeks 2 days ago

Thanks to all who answred my question. Have gone to a 250 ornady and 110 grains of triple seven. Working great. Thanks again.

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