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April 04, 2012
Florida Shooting Has Chilling Effect on Proposed 'Stand-Your-Ground' Laws Nationwide - 7

One political fallout from Florida's Treyvon Martin shooting is the chilling effect the incident is having on proposed 'Stand Your Ground' laws in state legislatures nationwide.
   
Expanded self-defense legislation similar to Florida's law adopted in 2005 has stalled in Alaska, Iowa, and New York, while lawmakers in Georgia, Texas, Wisconsin, and elsewhere are lobbying to repeal 'Stand Your Ground' laws in their states.
   
A Florida-like measure in Minnesota was vetoed by Governor Mark Dayton in early March. In Massachusetts, Governor Deval Patrick pledged to veto a similar bill if it made it to his desk. Meanwhile, in Michigan, former Governor Jennifer Granholm is blaming Republicans for that state's 'Stand Your Ground' law, even though she signed it into law without comment in 2006.
   
But the most subtly chilling comment gleaned from cyber-miscellany comes from an Iowa City, Iowa, legislative forum on March 30.
   
According to the Daily Iowan, "The legislators at the forum — all Democrats — agreed 'that the right to bear arms has the potential to become a danger to the public.'"
   
For more, go to:
-- Trayvon Martin’s death stalls Stand Your Ground Laws
   
-- Legislators respond to issues of gun laws in Iowa City
   
-- Fla. shooting turns attention onto Pa.'s law
   
-- Texas law similar to 'stand your ground'
   
-- Florida killing of Trayvon Martin stirs Texas gun law debate
   
-- Ohio lawmakers might pursue 'Stand Your Ground' legislation
   
-- Minnesota’s proposed Castle Doctrine expansion worse than Florida’s ‘Shoot First’
   
-- Michigan: Dem Gov Granholm Signed ‘Stand Your Ground’ & Now Blames Republicans

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from keithbusting wrote 2 years 5 days ago

Since this what they call in the justice trade "an ongoing investigation" soundbytes are all that will come out until the trial. The prosecuter and George Zimmerman's attorney are going to keep their cards close to the vest. Someone alluded to "hearsay" regarding the shooter in the process of becoming a victim. Of course "hearsay" won't be admissible in a court of law. It took the Governor of Florida to appoint a special prosecutor to get the legal wheels moving. The Sanford, Florida authorities showed no initiative or inclination to move on their own. They hid behind the Stand Your Ground law as though it were a fig leaf.
"These people" sounds like the other term often used, "you people". Perhaps "they" should start wearing cowboy hats and cowboy boots with or without spurs, bib overalls or they could dress up like "Larry the cable guy". "They" could also have country music booming out of their tricked-out pickup trucks with the gunrack in the back. Another known fact, whites kill each other too. Theirs get aired on "48 Hours" and "Dateline".

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from DEADEYEDICK396 wrote 2 years 1 week ago

I find myself looking at this whole shooting thing like maybe it was planned from the very beginning by our anti-gun friends in washington. I do not mean the shooting itself but the repercussions. New gun laws have been passing in most states over the last few years with concealed carry and stand your ground at the forefront. perhaps our illustrious gov't is using a new strategey; give those gun owners enough rope and they will hang themselves HMMMMMMMMMMM Think about that one for awhile.

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from toroscope wrote 2 years 1 week ago

I think it is too soon to make a judgement call on the rascism/reverse racism blah blah. All we are getting in the way of "real information" are sound bytes from the "outraged" relatives/friends of the victim and soundbytes from the relatives/friends of the shooter. I've heard the shooter was in process of becoming a victim when used the gun for self defense and have heard otherwise.

Let the authorities and investigators sort it out and figure out what really happened. If the shooter (who unfortunately has a track record of strange behavior via previous 911 calls and other incidents) turns out to be in the wrong...shame on him and DAMN we need to redouble our efforts to ensure the legislatures realise this is an isolated incident and NOT the norm.

If his medical information after the incident and subsequent investigation absolves him regardless of the 'outrage' in the airwaves, then that will come out as well. Still, and unfortunately, the necessity to redouble our efforts to ensure lawmakers realise the isolated incident also applies.

I just hate getting on a forum like this and seeing racism being bandied about. Every incident like this involves two or more individuals and should be dealt with by law enforcement with only that concept in mind. And despite the media, we should view it as that as well.

My dos centavos...take it or leave it. I'm back to getting my boat ready to get it out on the water and thinking about getting in better shape for next deer season !!

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from trapper vic wrote 2 years 1 week ago

The more you stir sh*t the longer and worse it will stink!If the guy committed a crime deal with him. There will always be some dumb*ss out there with a gun screwing it up for all of us. The law needs to deal with it and the media needs to keep racism out of it.

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from Dcast wrote 2 years 1 week ago

Captjim, MSM will never disclose the race of a white man/woman should they be attacked by a black man/woman it is journalist code anymore, but it spreads like wildfires in California if it is a W on B crime. Call me a racist for telling the truth, but we need these people to get there shiite together. It's time to call a spade a spade and start doing something about it and I'm sorry but they are scourge and it is time that they sart taking responsibility for their actions, culture, and demise. There is a reason for the way they are treated and viewed, and it is their culture. Quit listening to rap, gang banging, wearing baggy pants, blaming "The Man", and finally give up on the reperations. I can't help that your people sold your great-great-great-grandfamily to my Great-great-great-grandfamily, but we won't let the truth get in the way would we.

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from captjim wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

Just yesterday:
A fifty year old man, race undisclosed, is on life support after a near fatal beating. Police have arrested two black teens. The attack occurred near the community where the Trayvon Martin self-defense shooting took place.

The victim is from Winter Springs, which is 88% white. The victim was attacked in nearby Midway, which is 94% black. Both communities are within about a six-mile radius of Sanford.
Isn't it interesting race is undisclosed. I thing Jackson and Sharpton should go to jail for this.

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from Dcast wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

The only good that came out of this whole situation is NBC (The News in general) and the Democrat party has been exposed(for those who questioned before)for race baiting when nothing remotely racist happened. Latino's & Blacks kill each other all the time. Fact! Something new we learned from this is any crime that is commited against a black person is racist and always related to whites(the man)hence "White-Hispanic" bwahhahahaha! As for the stand your ground laws lets see what really transpires once the truth comes out not what some race baiting-liberal-propagandist-pimps made up. I am starting a fund for the arrest of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Malik Shabazz, and any other BPP members for racism, race warfare, idiocy, hate crimes, and finally enciting violence!

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from Dcast wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

The only good that came out of this whole situation is NBC (The News in general) and the Democrat party has been exposed(for those who questioned before)for race baiting when nothing remotely racist happened. Latino's & Blacks kill each other all the time. Fact! Something new we learned from this is any crime that is commited against a black person is racist and always related to whites(the man)hence "White-Hispanic" bwahhahahaha! As for the stand your ground laws lets see what really transpires once the truth comes out not what some race baiting-liberal-propagandist-pimps made up. I am starting a fund for the arrest of Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Malik Shabazz, and any other BPP members for racism, race warfare, idiocy, hate crimes, and finally enciting violence!

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from captjim wrote 2 years 2 weeks ago

Just yesterday:
A fifty year old man, race undisclosed, is on life support after a near fatal beating. Police have arrested two black teens. The attack occurred near the community where the Trayvon Martin self-defense shooting took place.

The victim is from Winter Springs, which is 88% white. The victim was attacked in nearby Midway, which is 94% black. Both communities are within about a six-mile radius of Sanford.
Isn't it interesting race is undisclosed. I thing Jackson and Sharpton should go to jail for this.

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from trapper vic wrote 2 years 1 week ago

The more you stir sh*t the longer and worse it will stink!If the guy committed a crime deal with him. There will always be some dumb*ss out there with a gun screwing it up for all of us. The law needs to deal with it and the media needs to keep racism out of it.

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from toroscope wrote 2 years 1 week ago

I think it is too soon to make a judgement call on the rascism/reverse racism blah blah. All we are getting in the way of "real information" are sound bytes from the "outraged" relatives/friends of the victim and soundbytes from the relatives/friends of the shooter. I've heard the shooter was in process of becoming a victim when used the gun for self defense and have heard otherwise.

Let the authorities and investigators sort it out and figure out what really happened. If the shooter (who unfortunately has a track record of strange behavior via previous 911 calls and other incidents) turns out to be in the wrong...shame on him and DAMN we need to redouble our efforts to ensure the legislatures realise this is an isolated incident and NOT the norm.

If his medical information after the incident and subsequent investigation absolves him regardless of the 'outrage' in the airwaves, then that will come out as well. Still, and unfortunately, the necessity to redouble our efforts to ensure lawmakers realise the isolated incident also applies.

I just hate getting on a forum like this and seeing racism being bandied about. Every incident like this involves two or more individuals and should be dealt with by law enforcement with only that concept in mind. And despite the media, we should view it as that as well.

My dos centavos...take it or leave it. I'm back to getting my boat ready to get it out on the water and thinking about getting in better shape for next deer season !!

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from DEADEYEDICK396 wrote 2 years 1 week ago

I find myself looking at this whole shooting thing like maybe it was planned from the very beginning by our anti-gun friends in washington. I do not mean the shooting itself but the repercussions. New gun laws have been passing in most states over the last few years with concealed carry and stand your ground at the forefront. perhaps our illustrious gov't is using a new strategey; give those gun owners enough rope and they will hang themselves HMMMMMMMMMMM Think about that one for awhile.

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from keithbusting wrote 2 years 5 days ago

Since this what they call in the justice trade "an ongoing investigation" soundbytes are all that will come out until the trial. The prosecuter and George Zimmerman's attorney are going to keep their cards close to the vest. Someone alluded to "hearsay" regarding the shooter in the process of becoming a victim. Of course "hearsay" won't be admissible in a court of law. It took the Governor of Florida to appoint a special prosecutor to get the legal wheels moving. The Sanford, Florida authorities showed no initiative or inclination to move on their own. They hid behind the Stand Your Ground law as though it were a fig leaf.
"These people" sounds like the other term often used, "you people". Perhaps "they" should start wearing cowboy hats and cowboy boots with or without spurs, bib overalls or they could dress up like "Larry the cable guy". "They" could also have country music booming out of their tricked-out pickup trucks with the gunrack in the back. Another known fact, whites kill each other too. Theirs get aired on "48 Hours" and "Dateline".

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from Dcast wrote 2 years 1 week ago

Captjim, MSM will never disclose the race of a white man/woman should they be attacked by a black man/woman it is journalist code anymore, but it spreads like wildfires in California if it is a W on B crime. Call me a racist for telling the truth, but we need these people to get there shiite together. It's time to call a spade a spade and start doing something about it and I'm sorry but they are scourge and it is time that they sart taking responsibility for their actions, culture, and demise. There is a reason for the way they are treated and viewed, and it is their culture. Quit listening to rap, gang banging, wearing baggy pants, blaming "The Man", and finally give up on the reperations. I can't help that your people sold your great-great-great-grandfamily to my Great-great-great-grandfamily, but we won't let the truth get in the way would we.

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