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January 23, 2009
A Trophy Llama? Priceless! - 20
by J.R. Absher
You’ve probably seen the television commercials for Southwest Airlines, where someone does something incredibly bone-headed, and the announcer asks, “Wanna get away?” We figure that’s probably how Rusty Saunders of Fort Edward, N.Y. felt after he shot—and tagged—what he thought was an elk while hunting in Montana’s Paradise Valley last November. The details are sketchy as to how Mr. Saunders initially came to his embarrassing revelation, but Mel Frost, the public information officer for the Bozeman office of Montana Fish, Parks and Wildlife confirmed that the Empire State woodsman turned himself in to a game warden in Livingston after realizing he’d bagged a shaggy-furred llama. Outdoor writer Brett French of the Billings Gazette reported this week that Saunders’ case was ultimately turned over to the Montana Department of Livestock, because, unlike in its native Peru, the llama in considered to be a farm animal in the states, and not wildlife. After investigating, the livestock folks turned the matter over to Park County authorities without issuing any citations. “We don’t have any statute to prevent that kind of thing,” Steve Merritt, information officer for the Livestock Department in Helena, told French. Photos taken by the livestock department showed the field-dressed dark brown and black llama in the back of a red pickup truck, with Saunders’ notched 2008 elk tag clearly attached to its neck. Not surprisingly, the photo is reportedly making the rounds on the Internet, along with verbiage inspired by another television advertising campaign. 30-06 rifle with Leupold Scope? $650; Out of state license? $600; Gas to drive from New York? $700; Taking a trophy Montana llama? Priceless!
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What a maroon!
"Priceless" is right---are you kidding me or what?
The only way I could see this happening is
a) hunting in the dark
or
b) has bad vision and wasn't wearing glasses
oh boy...some people should not have a hunting/firearms license...
And they wonder why there is Hunter Training courses!!!My husband has hunted elk for years and has had hunters from out of our region come in and ask him to show them some elk, cause they got a draw for an elk and have never seen one, nor do they even know what they look like. It is pretty scary to think these people are armed and dangerous.
How could you not realize it wasn't an elk they only way about 1000 lbs more than llamas
What tha heck how u mannage that
CONGRATULATIONS RUSTY / BEING as we don;t yet have an Llama problem here in KENTUCKY please leave youre rifle at home while visiting the BLUEGRASS STATE, we will put you on our reserve waiting list if the situtation arises as by now i'm sure you can differentiate between an elk cow and the most dangerous Llama.
whats next camels... HA
People like this need to stay at home. I'd feel much safer in the woods, especially since this was only about 60 miles from my house. Good thing I don't hunt in tan Carharts.
This is the kind of person that needs to loose their privilage to carry a gun.
When the Llama's get bad down here in Florida we will give you a call,but until then,stay in N.Y. I would hate to have one of my cows shot!
how in the world could this be possible? Out of starters need to take a field test such as the required bear test for residents
Wow that's utterly ridculous. Hunters like that are a big reason why it's importnat to take hunters safety and to always properly identify the target before a shot is taken. Unbelievable, it doesn't even look remotely like an elk.
It's unbelievable that there are so many people out there hunting that don't know what they're pointing their gun at when they pull the trigger...scary...BUT, as STUPID as it was that he did that, at least he did the right thing and turned himself in once he FINALLY realized the mistake that he made.
What do you want to bet that he had never been out of the city to see big game before that trip? I have watched many city boys hurt themselves (and others) because they had no clue as to what they were doing while on their "hunting" trips.
On one occasion, years ago, a friend and I almost got shot by "hunters" like that. We never went back. There are some who think I am a bit snobbish when it comes to hunting with others. I am not, I just don't like being shot at, even accidentally. I spent 4 years avoiding being shot at, I didn't particularly like having bullets coming in my direction then and not a lot has changed. I prefer to know my hunting companions and know they won't kill me just because they have limited understanding of the activity in which we are engaging.
Bo,
Good comment,it's a good thing people want to take up the sport we love,but before they get turned lose in the woods they should go with somebody that knows what there doing for awhile until they know every aspect of hunting.I've been hunting all my life,but I was trained from my dad and uncle how I.D. what I was shooting at and how to handle a firearm from day one.I'm like you I don't want to get shot at in the woods,already been shot and hit on the job,don't want to live that experience again.
Later,
BRBB
Does nobody read the lic. rules and regs. books? Not sure about Montana but in Colo. there is a section in there with how it IDENTIFY All "Legal" game animals in the state. Otherwise Get a BOOK(Wally-world carries LOTS)Go to the local Zoo for Gods sake
thats kinda sad that he couldnt tell the diference in a lama & a elk, (wonder what he had been drinking? ) , i no that here in oklahoma, there is a part where you have to identify animals correctly during the hunter safty course, & if you cant learn the difference in the two... well... just dont come to oklahoma... (i aint a bigfoot)...
I doubt if Mr. Saunders is even a hunter. He shot a llama, tagged it, and then probably bragged about it to some locals. It must have been really embarrassing to be educated on the differences between elk and llamas after “filling his tag”. I am glad to see he had the integrity to turn himself in to the proper authorities after the incident.
This is so bad that he killed this Llama. These are just beautiful animals. Not sure what happened here.
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The only way I could see this happening is
a) hunting in the dark
or
b) has bad vision and wasn't wearing glasses
oh boy...some people should not have a hunting/firearms license...
And they wonder why there is Hunter Training courses!!!My husband has hunted elk for years and has had hunters from out of our region come in and ask him to show them some elk, cause they got a draw for an elk and have never seen one, nor do they even know what they look like. It is pretty scary to think these people are armed and dangerous.
How could you not realize it wasn't an elk they only way about 1000 lbs more than llamas
CONGRATULATIONS RUSTY / BEING as we don;t yet have an Llama problem here in KENTUCKY please leave youre rifle at home while visiting the BLUEGRASS STATE, we will put you on our reserve waiting list if the situtation arises as by now i'm sure you can differentiate between an elk cow and the most dangerous Llama.
People like this need to stay at home. I'd feel much safer in the woods, especially since this was only about 60 miles from my house. Good thing I don't hunt in tan Carharts.
When the Llama's get bad down here in Florida we will give you a call,but until then,stay in N.Y. I would hate to have one of my cows shot!
It's unbelievable that there are so many people out there hunting that don't know what they're pointing their gun at when they pull the trigger...scary...BUT, as STUPID as it was that he did that, at least he did the right thing and turned himself in once he FINALLY realized the mistake that he made.
What do you want to bet that he had never been out of the city to see big game before that trip? I have watched many city boys hurt themselves (and others) because they had no clue as to what they were doing while on their "hunting" trips.
On one occasion, years ago, a friend and I almost got shot by "hunters" like that. We never went back. There are some who think I am a bit snobbish when it comes to hunting with others. I am not, I just don't like being shot at, even accidentally. I spent 4 years avoiding being shot at, I didn't particularly like having bullets coming in my direction then and not a lot has changed. I prefer to know my hunting companions and know they won't kill me just because they have limited understanding of the activity in which we are engaging.
Bo,
Good comment,it's a good thing people want to take up the sport we love,but before they get turned lose in the woods they should go with somebody that knows what there doing for awhile until they know every aspect of hunting.I've been hunting all my life,but I was trained from my dad and uncle how I.D. what I was shooting at and how to handle a firearm from day one.I'm like you I don't want to get shot at in the woods,already been shot and hit on the job,don't want to live that experience again.
Later,
BRBB
Does nobody read the lic. rules and regs. books? Not sure about Montana but in Colo. there is a section in there with how it IDENTIFY All "Legal" game animals in the state. Otherwise Get a BOOK(Wally-world carries LOTS)Go to the local Zoo for Gods sake
What tha heck how u mannage that
This is the kind of person that needs to loose their privilage to carry a gun.
how in the world could this be possible? Out of starters need to take a field test such as the required bear test for residents
Wow that's utterly ridculous. Hunters like that are a big reason why it's importnat to take hunters safety and to always properly identify the target before a shot is taken. Unbelievable, it doesn't even look remotely like an elk.
thats kinda sad that he couldnt tell the diference in a lama & a elk, (wonder what he had been drinking? ) , i no that here in oklahoma, there is a part where you have to identify animals correctly during the hunter safty course, & if you cant learn the difference in the two... well... just dont come to oklahoma... (i aint a bigfoot)...
I doubt if Mr. Saunders is even a hunter. He shot a llama, tagged it, and then probably bragged about it to some locals. It must have been really embarrassing to be educated on the differences between elk and llamas after “filling his tag”. I am glad to see he had the integrity to turn himself in to the proper authorities after the incident.
"Priceless" is right---are you kidding me or what?
whats next camels... HA
What a maroon!
This is so bad that he killed this Llama. These are just beautiful animals. Not sure what happened here.
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