An attack by a 10-point buck sent a far upstate New York man to the emergency room last week, with gashes and bruises covering most of his body.
Moira resident Gerald Dabiew says he feels fortunate he wasn’t more seriously injured after being butted and pinned to the ground for several minutes by the aggressive whitetail he encountered behind his rural home.
“I’ve got bruises from head to toe,” Dabiew, 56, told the Watertown Daily Times. “He picked me up in the air and pounded me into the ground.”
Dabiew’s isolated home is surrounded by woods, and deer are commonly seen in the area. So while he was loading wood behind his house, he didn’t think twice as he spotted the buck across the road. “He stepped on the road, he looked at me, and the next thing I know, he was coming right at me,” Dabiew said. “He got me down on the ground, and it was then I knew that he really wanted to kill me.”
Dabiew, who referred to himself as “a good-sized guy,” fought the buck for several minutes, wrapping his legs around the animal’s neck and holding its antlers. He was finally able to break loose and managed to kick the animal, causing it to back off and retreat.
Dabiew, who said he’s not a hunter, said he certainly hadn’t considered deer to be dangerous animals—until last week, anyway.
“It changed my way of thinking,” he said. “I took an awful pounding; I know that.”
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very good choice kody a gun with alot of ammo down range that deer will need a flakjacket!
My weapon of choice would be a Springfield M1A in .308 with a large clip. I'd pull the hardball ammo from my military rounds and seat some 150 gr Grand Slam Speer bullets in their place. I'd stick to the military peep sight as I expect the shooting will be in the bush and at close quarters. I expect those fellows who run those hunting ranches will be hiring a genetics expert soon.
well kody would that rifle be a 50cal or something bigger i dont know you know how tough those deer are dont want to go light.might piss him off!
In the matter of the T-Rex deer, if there isn't the right rifle in the family arsenal then you just have to go out and get the right one. Just one more thing that makes the creation of this new breed of deer so appealing. If you thought I looked like Charlie Chaplin goes to war with all the gear I carry on a goose hunt you haven't seen anything to compare to my rig for that hunt!! Best wishes to all.
Kody
In the matter of the T-Rex deer, if there isn't the right rifle in the family arsenal then you just have to go out and get the right one. Just one more thing that makes the creation of this new breed of deer so appealing. If you thought I looked like Charlie Chaplin goes to war with all the gear I carry on a goose hunt you haven't seen anything to compare to my rig for that hunt!! Best wishes to all.
Kody
hey djh well said brother right from the heart!
Thank all of you for the nice comments! I think we as humans go threw life looking for what we want to see. For example a person that wants to see good in this world only see's the good in things & the people that go threw life down & out and there always looking for something bad in evreything so they can feel better about them selfs when they are able to point out the bad & talk bad about it. So Kody we see you wanting to see the good in others so I think it is you who is the good person!
As for the double life hehehe for sure I feel like superman in the phone booth when someone stops by randomly & ask if I could go hunting with them. I can go from my daily cloths to hunting cloths within a few blinks of the eye. My better half understands & she see's that I'm truley happy when I get a little hunting in or fishing & she is ok with it now! I say now because it took awhile for her to understand my passion for the outdoors.
One thing I want to leave this comment with is for you as your reading this think of how dirty sweaty sticky smelly & sometimes even bloody if you hunt turned out the way you want it. But that would normaly make a man feel dirty but why is it when we are in the outdoors it makes our spirt feel so clean even when we are hiking back to the truck looking like we justed climbed out a gut pile and rolled around on the ground for a while.
we all need to go and be with nature to remind us of what is real.its not always about killing game and catching fish!oh by the way about the t-rex deer i dont think they make a gun for that animal!
Pretty eloquent for someone who wishes he "could write that good", Charlie. Good stuff!
thank you guys for the wonderful comments.dropjhook your right we do want the same things for us and our kids.and kody hope your bullwhip trick works out well!always your friend patrick88.
DJH,
You being a man of 2 worlds post reminded me of John Madson's forward in "The Deer Book" by Lamar Underwood.
Here are the last 3 paragraphs:
"James Fenimore Cooper, who wrote a lot about the woods, was deeply concerned over the tragic clash between wilderness and civiliaztion. He observed that the wilderness had one set of values which should be preserved, while civilization had cerain values which might be brought into the wilderness but which usually destroy it. This may be the greatest single challenge to modern America: to preserve the intrinsic values of wildlands while enjoying the benefits of urban culture.
The genuine deer hunter is among the men best quipped to do this, for he has one foot in the woods and the other in town. More than most men, and certainly more than almost all his critics, he understands the value of both places.
It was over a century ago that Cooper lamented the impact of civilization on wilderness. But at the same time, without knowing it, he was writing about the breed of man who would someday cushion that impact - the figure that literary historians have since called the ideal man in the state of nature. And which James Fenimore Cooper simply called "The Deerslayer."
Darn, wish I could write that good. Anyway a toast to all genuine hunters.
P.S. My wife is getting me one of those fancy bullwhips made out of kangaroo hide for xmas. I'm going practice up, drink some Tequila with some of the neighbours and see if they will hold a cigarette for me to demonstrate my skills!! Life is good!!
Dropjhook, mountain man with a PC.. whatever.. I know one thing .. you are a good man.. that last entry was great.
Kody
Patrick, I had mentioned my entry in the forum to my wife and have just read your reply to her. My wife is a beautiful, sensitive woman. She cried here in our kitchen to think of your loss. We can only wish that tears, like prayers, can mend such a thing.
Yours truly,
Kody
Patrick, sorry about your last comment I dont even want to imagine life without any of my boys.
Kody, I would have to say your right about you comment on me being a mountian man my blood comes from people who lived in these mountians for a long time & I would have to say my heart is in these same moutians as you can tell by my passion for the outdoors. I would thrive if I had to hunt to survive for the rest of my life and also be in high spirts all the time. But I also like the new space age material world in a way I really enjoy the pc as you can see. Most of my free time is outdoors doing what I enjoy and the outdoors is where I can feel conected to this world & it is also a good place to clear a mans head.
OH yeah pattrick88 I think my age isnt close to Kody & most readers on ol but I know for sure our heart yerns for the same thing thats what brings us together!
well kody i have lost a child and its truly painful i want to thank you for caring.your friend patrick88!
BIG bucks in the rut will attack humans to protect there territory. A young man here in Mich. had to fight one off on opening day gun hunt,his dad came and shot it, a big 10 point. A few years back, a breeder was killed by one of his big bucks, so you need to watch your backs at all times.
Don
Charlie,
I figure that new dangerous breed of deer would best be hunted with team work. One guy carries a center fire rifle while his partner has a shotgun with oo buckshot for close quarter work. Word has it these critters will either mount a charge or ambush you in the deep bush. It calls for solid nerves and a steady hand. Yep! It has possibilities!
Patrick88 I guess some of us are a pretty easy read my friend. When I was a kid I use to enjoy throwing hatches and snapping a bullwhip. I would relax after school by practicing in the backyard. I practically wore out the old spruce stump with the axes and got to be pretty skilled with that whip as well. It is miraculous that I don't still have the marks on my backside for all the times that whip accidently clipped me. Anyway, I was polishing skills with no real application in the present age. If I had done a aptitude test I probably would have been up for a stage coach driver or a traveling circus act. Come to think of it, I had such a good time doing that stuff that I just might freak out the neighbors and start practicing in this backyard with one of those fancy Aussy kangaroo whips.
P.S. I noticed a comment from you in the post about putting down your dog in which you suggested there are worst pains. It hurt me to think of it and I hope you have been spared such a thing.
Your truly,
Kody
You might want to be a bit careful what you wish for Kody.
What if the deer evolve into carnivores too?
http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/gallery/hunting/2009/10/meat-eating-de...
In case you missed OL's meat eating deer piece.
I'm with you it would certainly add an element of excitement yet unseen in the deer hunting world.
;-)
charlie
kody you and drop i asume are close to the same age as are a few others on here i would say you guys have a lot in common besides hunting and guns!
I have never thought of deer as a threat to my safety but there is a certain appeal to that notion. Much as I enjoy the stalk, a highly territorial deer inclined to attack as opposed to disappearing into deep cover would be damn exciting! Yep, I thing we are on to something here. It would definitely change my choice of a deer hunting firearm.
dropjhook, the backstrap is still sizzling over the fire back at the Bunyan camp and I see you still have in on your mind in this neck of the woods. It just confirms you to be Mountain man. I see many in this forum, including myself, that may have been more suited to living in a different time.
sounds like one of those meat eating deer found the weak one in our herd and took his chance to score his backstraps for the week.:)
well he said he was not a hunter and this changed the way he thinks.so we hope that means hes going to go out and buy a deer rifle take up hunting and shooting sports man i hopr so!
I'm glad to hear Mr. Dabiew wasn't more seriously hurt. I wonder what set the buck off. This would have been a funny story if he was an animal rights activist wearing a PETA t-shirt. If he was a hunter, the PETA gang would have gone all blood thirsty on us and cheered for the deer.
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Patrick, sorry about your last comment I dont even want to imagine life without any of my boys.
Kody, I would have to say your right about you comment on me being a mountian man my blood comes from people who lived in these mountians for a long time & I would have to say my heart is in these same moutians as you can tell by my passion for the outdoors. I would thrive if I had to hunt to survive for the rest of my life and also be in high spirts all the time. But I also like the new space age material world in a way I really enjoy the pc as you can see. Most of my free time is outdoors doing what I enjoy and the outdoors is where I can feel conected to this world & it is also a good place to clear a mans head.
OH yeah pattrick88 I think my age isnt close to Kody & most readers on ol but I know for sure our heart yerns for the same thing thats what brings us together!
I'm glad to hear Mr. Dabiew wasn't more seriously hurt. I wonder what set the buck off. This would have been a funny story if he was an animal rights activist wearing a PETA t-shirt. If he was a hunter, the PETA gang would have gone all blood thirsty on us and cheered for the deer.
sounds like one of those meat eating deer found the weak one in our herd and took his chance to score his backstraps for the week.:)
You might want to be a bit careful what you wish for Kody.
What if the deer evolve into carnivores too?
http://www.outdoorlife.com/photos/gallery/hunting/2009/10/meat-eating-de...
In case you missed OL's meat eating deer piece.
I'm with you it would certainly add an element of excitement yet unseen in the deer hunting world.
;-)
charlie
Charlie,
I figure that new dangerous breed of deer would best be hunted with team work. One guy carries a center fire rifle while his partner has a shotgun with oo buckshot for close quarter work. Word has it these critters will either mount a charge or ambush you in the deep bush. It calls for solid nerves and a steady hand. Yep! It has possibilities!
BIG bucks in the rut will attack humans to protect there territory. A young man here in Mich. had to fight one off on opening day gun hunt,his dad came and shot it, a big 10 point. A few years back, a breeder was killed by one of his big bucks, so you need to watch your backs at all times.
Don
Patrick, I had mentioned my entry in the forum to my wife and have just read your reply to her. My wife is a beautiful, sensitive woman. She cried here in our kitchen to think of your loss. We can only wish that tears, like prayers, can mend such a thing.
Yours truly,
Kody
Dropjhook, mountain man with a PC.. whatever.. I know one thing .. you are a good man.. that last entry was great.
Kody
P.S. My wife is getting me one of those fancy bullwhips made out of kangaroo hide for xmas. I'm going practice up, drink some Tequila with some of the neighbours and see if they will hold a cigarette for me to demonstrate my skills!! Life is good!!
DJH,
You being a man of 2 worlds post reminded me of John Madson's forward in "The Deer Book" by Lamar Underwood.
Here are the last 3 paragraphs:
"James Fenimore Cooper, who wrote a lot about the woods, was deeply concerned over the tragic clash between wilderness and civiliaztion. He observed that the wilderness had one set of values which should be preserved, while civilization had cerain values which might be brought into the wilderness but which usually destroy it. This may be the greatest single challenge to modern America: to preserve the intrinsic values of wildlands while enjoying the benefits of urban culture.
The genuine deer hunter is among the men best quipped to do this, for he has one foot in the woods and the other in town. More than most men, and certainly more than almost all his critics, he understands the value of both places.
It was over a century ago that Cooper lamented the impact of civilization on wilderness. But at the same time, without knowing it, he was writing about the breed of man who would someday cushion that impact - the figure that literary historians have since called the ideal man in the state of nature. And which James Fenimore Cooper simply called "The Deerslayer."
Darn, wish I could write that good. Anyway a toast to all genuine hunters.
I have never thought of deer as a threat to my safety but there is a certain appeal to that notion. Much as I enjoy the stalk, a highly territorial deer inclined to attack as opposed to disappearing into deep cover would be damn exciting! Yep, I thing we are on to something here. It would definitely change my choice of a deer hunting firearm.
dropjhook, the backstrap is still sizzling over the fire back at the Bunyan camp and I see you still have in on your mind in this neck of the woods. It just confirms you to be Mountain man. I see many in this forum, including myself, that may have been more suited to living in a different time.
Patrick88 I guess some of us are a pretty easy read my friend. When I was a kid I use to enjoy throwing hatches and snapping a bullwhip. I would relax after school by practicing in the backyard. I practically wore out the old spruce stump with the axes and got to be pretty skilled with that whip as well. It is miraculous that I don't still have the marks on my backside for all the times that whip accidently clipped me. Anyway, I was polishing skills with no real application in the present age. If I had done a aptitude test I probably would have been up for a stage coach driver or a traveling circus act. Come to think of it, I had such a good time doing that stuff that I just might freak out the neighbors and start practicing in this backyard with one of those fancy Aussy kangaroo whips.
P.S. I noticed a comment from you in the post about putting down your dog in which you suggested there are worst pains. It hurt me to think of it and I hope you have been spared such a thing.
Your truly,
Kody
well kody i have lost a child and its truly painful i want to thank you for caring.your friend patrick88!
Pretty eloquent for someone who wishes he "could write that good", Charlie. Good stuff!
Thank all of you for the nice comments! I think we as humans go threw life looking for what we want to see. For example a person that wants to see good in this world only see's the good in things & the people that go threw life down & out and there always looking for something bad in evreything so they can feel better about them selfs when they are able to point out the bad & talk bad about it. So Kody we see you wanting to see the good in others so I think it is you who is the good person!
As for the double life hehehe for sure I feel like superman in the phone booth when someone stops by randomly & ask if I could go hunting with them. I can go from my daily cloths to hunting cloths within a few blinks of the eye. My better half understands & she see's that I'm truley happy when I get a little hunting in or fishing & she is ok with it now! I say now because it took awhile for her to understand my passion for the outdoors.
One thing I want to leave this comment with is for you as your reading this think of how dirty sweaty sticky smelly & sometimes even bloody if you hunt turned out the way you want it. But that would normaly make a man feel dirty but why is it when we are in the outdoors it makes our spirt feel so clean even when we are hiking back to the truck looking like we justed climbed out a gut pile and rolled around on the ground for a while.
My weapon of choice would be a Springfield M1A in .308 with a large clip. I'd pull the hardball ammo from my military rounds and seat some 150 gr Grand Slam Speer bullets in their place. I'd stick to the military peep sight as I expect the shooting will be in the bush and at close quarters. I expect those fellows who run those hunting ranches will be hiring a genetics expert soon.
well he said he was not a hunter and this changed the way he thinks.so we hope that means hes going to go out and buy a deer rifle take up hunting and shooting sports man i hopr so!
thank you guys for the wonderful comments.dropjhook your right we do want the same things for us and our kids.and kody hope your bullwhip trick works out well!always your friend patrick88.
we all need to go and be with nature to remind us of what is real.its not always about killing game and catching fish!oh by the way about the t-rex deer i dont think they make a gun for that animal!
hey djh well said brother right from the heart!
In the matter of the T-Rex deer, if there isn't the right rifle in the family arsenal then you just have to go out and get the right one. Just one more thing that makes the creation of this new breed of deer so appealing. If you thought I looked like Charlie Chaplin goes to war with all the gear I carry on a goose hunt you haven't seen anything to compare to my rig for that hunt!! Best wishes to all.
Kody
In the matter of the T-Rex deer, if there isn't the right rifle in the family arsenal then you just have to go out and get the right one. Just one more thing that makes the creation of this new breed of deer so appealing. If you thought I looked like Charlie Chaplin goes to war with all the gear I carry on a goose hunt you haven't seen anything to compare to my rig for that hunt!! Best wishes to all.
Kody
kody you and drop i asume are close to the same age as are a few others on here i would say you guys have a lot in common besides hunting and guns!
well kody would that rifle be a 50cal or something bigger i dont know you know how tough those deer are dont want to go light.might piss him off!
very good choice kody a gun with alot of ammo down range that deer will need a flakjacket!
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