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Hunting Inventions

Well it happened to me again. I woke up and found myself thinking about this up and coming turkey season. I was thinking about past hunts and how I could avoid certain mistakes that happened previous seasons while chasing that gobbler. Then it happened... I got an idea. I'm not sure if this happens to you guys but it seems like every year while in the field or thinking about being in the field I get creative and think of inventions that myself as well as others would benefit from. Inventions of course which could send $$$ my way if they ever landed on store shelves. Well like most of my ideas after a day or two they don't sound like such a good idea or after a trip to the local sporting good store I see someone beat me to it, which is always a downer. However, my new idea, which you'll find out about when you see it in the store, lol, needs some help. I have little knowledge as to where to go from here. I was hoping some of you would have some advice from yours or your buddies previous attempts to market ideas. I know us sportsman are a creative bunch so there's got to be some people out there with some success or horror stories. I can recall my dad's friend had an idea and spent a few thousand bucks patenting it just to find out no one was interested. So where do I go from here?

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from Roger Ginnett wrote 1 year 32 weeks ago

When you get to the point to where you want to produce some items to test market, I may be able to connect you to a good vendor. I've been helping some people with marketing new camo patterns, hog lights and other product ideas and I have friends who own factories that can make custom runs. One factory I work with produces 3d archery targets, arm protectors, tents, clothing and is very open to working with inventors.

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from MWK_MN wrote 3 years 39 weeks ago

That makes sense Charlie. I will definitely keep that in mind. There's a show on ABC called Shark Tank I believe it is. The sharks knowledge of the field is sometimes more valuable than the investment they are willing to give. Also I just picked up a book called "Launch It", looks to be good reading.

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from charlie elk wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

MWK,
Finding the right adviser or helper to get your product to market is extremely valuable.
If you find the right people there is nothing wrong with fairly compensating them. Actually that can turn out to be the best investment you'll ever make.
Just make sure you have protected your idea as best you can before any disclosure.
Good Luck.
charlie

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from Whiterabbit wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

MWK_MN
Anytime give me a call I'll be happy to point you in the right direction. I've help other's like KME Knifes, Loc-a-peep, an others.
If you sit on your invention someone else will invent it. I've been at shows, where 5 Hunter's came up to me sating that, it was their idea. But they didn't pursue it. If that was 5 Hunter's there properly was the idea of 500 more out there. But they didn't go for it.
Also only 3% of patents, ever hit the market.
You maybe sitting on a money winner.
Alot of people are afraid of being rich. I had that, always thought I was to young. Now I'm 59. Now, am I too old. I don't think so!
The time is right now.
To all out there go for your dreams!

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from MWK_MN wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

On second thought...Dude, you're the guy behind Butt Out???!!! lol! If you ever find yourself in MN I wanna buy you a beer! So you're willing to give advice for free/ no cut of the cheese, just because we all belong to the same brotherhood? If so you're a good man, probably be hearing from me soon. Gonna go buy Butt out 2 now!

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from MWK_MN wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

Whiterabbit, Thanks for the post. When the time comes and if I can't proceed on my own I may give you a call/email.

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from Whiterabbit wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

Hi I'm a inventor, who would help anybody that needs my help.
Are you firmiliar with the Deer-e-ere Butt Out, Butt Out 2, well that's me.Hunter's Specialties is Lic. to sell and Distribute for me.
If any readers want the inside info, before spending your kids. college fund, or your retirement give me a call, we might be on the phone for hours, or email me.
Who knows you might want to get your product out there! Maybe I can help. Take the risk, it's well worth it. It might even make you rich.
ask for Mike 732-928-0924 Email whtkotonka@optonline.net

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from charlie elk wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

I am not aware of any good books on the subject that I could recommend. A good way to learn is seek out stories about the success of other inventors and learn from their examples. Success and failure stories abound in America you can learn much from both.
later,
charlie

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from MWK_MN wrote 3 years 51 weeks ago

sangcoacc, sounds like you need someone close and trustworthy with some $ to go in on it with you. That could be hard to find. Or else like Charlie says just go for it and whatever happens happens.
Charlie, are there any books you would recommend for first time inventors that could guide them through the process. I know there are a bunch out there but was curious if you knew of any good ones that are above the rest, thanks.

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 2 days ago

Patent Search-
http://www.uspto.gov/main/profiles/acadres.htm

Fee Schedule
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/qs/ope/fee2009september15.htm

US Patent Office Home page for all other questions-
http://www.uspto.gov/index.jsp

It does not cost much to patent and or copyright something if you do it yourself. Defense is the more challenging part. Those I know who have brought new intentions out for example Double Bull Blinds. They patented to keep the honest people honest and then marketed like heck to get the biggest market share before the copycats moved in.

The best advice is go for it even without a patent. Sitting around makes you zero at least going for makes you something.
later,
charlie

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from sangcoacc wrote 4 years 2 days ago

I was told patents are expensive to receive and even more expensive to defend when someone tweeks your patent and calls it their idea. I've been sitting on plans and a prototype for years with no patent. Therefore, no $$ rolling in. I've seen a few variations of my idea but nothing I would consider close. I don't have the guts, or the $$, to take the next step.

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from MWK_MN wrote 4 years 4 days ago

Lol, you'll be at the top of the list Charlie.

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 4 days ago

You will certainly need a product tester. When you get ready; charlie knows how to put outdoor gear through the paces. And a very skillful endorsement writer to boot. ;-D
celk@ymail.com
later,
charlie

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from MWK_MN wrote 4 years 4 days ago

DJH, thanks for the response. I hear lot's of stories about people going broke with patents. Good for that guy to finally hit it big.

Charlie, thanks for the advice. That is an excellent idea for proving in court you were first. I have often wondered how one would defend themselves from someone trying to rip them off. That tip alone was well worth my posting of this topic. As far as my idea goes I will keep it quiet for sure. I know that if I saw it on the shelf at the local store I would pick it up. That alone tells me it may be a good idea.

Hopefully others will drop in and respond to this post with stories or tips.

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 4 days ago

Draw up the plans, build some prototypes; send yourself a package containing the letter describing the item include the plans and a prototype. Do not open the package the postmark will serve as proof of the day you invented and built the item. For further protection send a package by UPS and FedEx too. Do Not open them. Now you apply for a patent which is easy and you can do it yourself. Ideas can be stolen from the patent office or somewhere along the line the package is your ace in the hole to prove you were first. The expense of a patent comes when you have to defend it in court when someone steals it.
In order to provide marketing advice I would have to know something about the invention because different products need to be marketed in different ways. This is what I do for a living.
Don't give any hints online here that would make your idea really hard to defend later.
I would like to say best of luck but hard work is what will make it pay off. Luck actually has very little to do with success.
later,
charlie

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 4 days ago

wow you brought back the memories of a fella I bumped into about 10 yrs ago. Well this guy was always trying to invent something & then he would always put a patent on evreything he made I was thinking that has to cost some $$. Then one day he spills his storie to me he said he was a fan of football & he was tired of trying to guess where the first down marker was on t.v.! Well you know the yellow laser that makes the firstdown marker on t.v now that was his idea. He gets so much money evrey game they use the first down marking system on t.v. . After patenting the laser he pitched it to the NFL first they took it & soon after college football. this is what he said he was inventing for many years & patent evreything he made even though he would be broke but he stayed with it & something paid off in the end. crazy stuff a simple laser beem & he is set for life. Good luck

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 4 days ago

Draw up the plans, build some prototypes; send yourself a package containing the letter describing the item include the plans and a prototype. Do not open the package the postmark will serve as proof of the day you invented and built the item. For further protection send a package by UPS and FedEx too. Do Not open them. Now you apply for a patent which is easy and you can do it yourself. Ideas can be stolen from the patent office or somewhere along the line the package is your ace in the hole to prove you were first. The expense of a patent comes when you have to defend it in court when someone steals it.
In order to provide marketing advice I would have to know something about the invention because different products need to be marketed in different ways. This is what I do for a living.
Don't give any hints online here that would make your idea really hard to defend later.
I would like to say best of luck but hard work is what will make it pay off. Luck actually has very little to do with success.
later,
charlie

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 4 days ago

wow you brought back the memories of a fella I bumped into about 10 yrs ago. Well this guy was always trying to invent something & then he would always put a patent on evreything he made I was thinking that has to cost some $$. Then one day he spills his storie to me he said he was a fan of football & he was tired of trying to guess where the first down marker was on t.v.! Well you know the yellow laser that makes the firstdown marker on t.v now that was his idea. He gets so much money evrey game they use the first down marking system on t.v. . After patenting the laser he pitched it to the NFL first they took it & soon after college football. this is what he said he was inventing for many years & patent evreything he made even though he would be broke but he stayed with it & something paid off in the end. crazy stuff a simple laser beem & he is set for life. Good luck

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from MWK_MN wrote 4 years 4 days ago

DJH, thanks for the response. I hear lot's of stories about people going broke with patents. Good for that guy to finally hit it big.

Charlie, thanks for the advice. That is an excellent idea for proving in court you were first. I have often wondered how one would defend themselves from someone trying to rip them off. That tip alone was well worth my posting of this topic. As far as my idea goes I will keep it quiet for sure. I know that if I saw it on the shelf at the local store I would pick it up. That alone tells me it may be a good idea.

Hopefully others will drop in and respond to this post with stories or tips.

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 4 days ago

You will certainly need a product tester. When you get ready; charlie knows how to put outdoor gear through the paces. And a very skillful endorsement writer to boot. ;-D
celk@ymail.com
later,
charlie

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from Whiterabbit wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

MWK_MN
Anytime give me a call I'll be happy to point you in the right direction. I've help other's like KME Knifes, Loc-a-peep, an others.
If you sit on your invention someone else will invent it. I've been at shows, where 5 Hunter's came up to me sating that, it was their idea. But they didn't pursue it. If that was 5 Hunter's there properly was the idea of 500 more out there. But they didn't go for it.
Also only 3% of patents, ever hit the market.
You maybe sitting on a money winner.
Alot of people are afraid of being rich. I had that, always thought I was to young. Now I'm 59. Now, am I too old. I don't think so!
The time is right now.
To all out there go for your dreams!

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from charlie elk wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

MWK,
Finding the right adviser or helper to get your product to market is extremely valuable.
If you find the right people there is nothing wrong with fairly compensating them. Actually that can turn out to be the best investment you'll ever make.
Just make sure you have protected your idea as best you can before any disclosure.
Good Luck.
charlie

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from MWK_MN wrote 4 years 4 days ago

Lol, you'll be at the top of the list Charlie.

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 2 days ago

Patent Search-
http://www.uspto.gov/main/profiles/acadres.htm

Fee Schedule
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/qs/ope/fee2009september15.htm

US Patent Office Home page for all other questions-
http://www.uspto.gov/index.jsp

It does not cost much to patent and or copyright something if you do it yourself. Defense is the more challenging part. Those I know who have brought new intentions out for example Double Bull Blinds. They patented to keep the honest people honest and then marketed like heck to get the biggest market share before the copycats moved in.

The best advice is go for it even without a patent. Sitting around makes you zero at least going for makes you something.
later,
charlie

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from MWK_MN wrote 3 years 51 weeks ago

sangcoacc, sounds like you need someone close and trustworthy with some $ to go in on it with you. That could be hard to find. Or else like Charlie says just go for it and whatever happens happens.
Charlie, are there any books you would recommend for first time inventors that could guide them through the process. I know there are a bunch out there but was curious if you knew of any good ones that are above the rest, thanks.

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from Whiterabbit wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

Hi I'm a inventor, who would help anybody that needs my help.
Are you firmiliar with the Deer-e-ere Butt Out, Butt Out 2, well that's me.Hunter's Specialties is Lic. to sell and Distribute for me.
If any readers want the inside info, before spending your kids. college fund, or your retirement give me a call, we might be on the phone for hours, or email me.
Who knows you might want to get your product out there! Maybe I can help. Take the risk, it's well worth it. It might even make you rich.
ask for Mike 732-928-0924 Email whtkotonka@optonline.net

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from MWK_MN wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

Whiterabbit, Thanks for the post. When the time comes and if I can't proceed on my own I may give you a call/email.

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from MWK_MN wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

On second thought...Dude, you're the guy behind Butt Out???!!! lol! If you ever find yourself in MN I wanna buy you a beer! So you're willing to give advice for free/ no cut of the cheese, just because we all belong to the same brotherhood? If so you're a good man, probably be hearing from me soon. Gonna go buy Butt out 2 now!

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from Roger Ginnett wrote 1 year 32 weeks ago

When you get to the point to where you want to produce some items to test market, I may be able to connect you to a good vendor. I've been helping some people with marketing new camo patterns, hog lights and other product ideas and I have friends who own factories that can make custom runs. One factory I work with produces 3d archery targets, arm protectors, tents, clothing and is very open to working with inventors.

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from sangcoacc wrote 4 years 2 days ago

I was told patents are expensive to receive and even more expensive to defend when someone tweeks your patent and calls it their idea. I've been sitting on plans and a prototype for years with no patent. Therefore, no $$ rolling in. I've seen a few variations of my idea but nothing I would consider close. I don't have the guts, or the $$, to take the next step.

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from charlie elk wrote 3 years 46 weeks ago

I am not aware of any good books on the subject that I could recommend. A good way to learn is seek out stories about the success of other inventors and learn from their examples. Success and failure stories abound in America you can learn much from both.
later,
charlie

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from MWK_MN wrote 3 years 39 weeks ago

That makes sense Charlie. I will definitely keep that in mind. There's a show on ABC called Shark Tank I believe it is. The sharks knowledge of the field is sometimes more valuable than the investment they are willing to give. Also I just picked up a book called "Launch It", looks to be good reading.

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