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What type of Mossberg shotgun should I get?

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I was thinking about getting a mossberg 590a1 model #51668 for protection while hunting from animals such as bears and pumas, would this gun also work as a hunting gun? If not which would? Please include model numbers to any gun you list.

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Okay I am getting into bow hunting, so I was thinking about getting a shotgun for protection and peace of mind. I was thinking that a shotgun would be great for protection since you can strap it over your shoulder and pump shells into anything coming at you and I have seen slugs from a shot gun put holes through thick tree trunks. So I figured that a shotgun would be a great choice, and it can also serve as home protection.

So now I have been thinking about getting a shotgun that can double as a hunting gun used for duck, deer, turkey, pigs and other such animals. I have seen people say that a mossberg 500 is a great all around hunting gun, now I was looking at getting a 590a1 model #51668 which to me looks a lot the 500. Would the 590a1 double as a good hunting shotgun? If not what model of the mossberg 500 is the best for all around protection and hunting? Also I am looking for a shotgun that can hold 6-9 shells, hence the 590a1.

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from Arya Abadsafian wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Hi,
I saw your quest for a Mossberg. I recently talked with a former competitive shooter who worked at the gun section at my local sports goods store. At the time I was looking for a Benelli, and he gave me a good 30 min talk about Benelli's being worse than Marlins and so on...
He mentioned a Mossberg 500 that was a very solid all around shotgun. I asked him If I could hunt with it, even though I plan on only going skeet shooting. He said that this gone is excellent for skeet shooting and hunting large game animals. It is a 12ga 20" barrel pump shotgun. The best in its price range ($150 at the store). Great considering it fits my budget and I can use it down the road for hunting later. Just thought I'd pass on the advice he gave me...

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from dogtown101 wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

I really like my 835 ulti mag. With its ability to shoot 3 and a half inch double aught buck it will kill anything you shoot at it

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from billy09 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Bo I agree. I bought my first shotgun 4 yrs ago at a local pawnshop. It was a used Mossberg 500A1 with a 28inch barrell. All black and at the time i didnt know anything about shotguns but i liked the way it felt and the weight of it too. I got it for 168 with tax included. Ive had it for 4 yrs and counting now but ive never had a problem with it. Ive shot 400 rounds threw it in one day on multiple occasions without cleaning it from previous skeet shoots or hunts and It has never had a jam or any other problem. Its the best shotgun I have ever shot, considering i have shot my friends Remington 870 with mossy oak camo. These things are realiable and if you want one for self defense then get a 500 with 18.5 barrell 6 shot or 20 inch barrell 9 shot 12guage. You can also get a 590A1 but will cost more.
I wouldnt recommend carrying it while bow hunting. Get a hand gun instead. Oh by the way I do clean my firearms but i do get lazy sometimes.

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from Bo wrote 4 years 25 weeks ago

blackdawgz, you just got a defective gun if you had that kind of problem. I can shoot fast mine enough that I can see three wads in the air and used to be fairly accurate. I am not nearly as strong or fast as I used to be. I have a .44 Mag and would not use it in town for self defense. I don't really want to shoot a neighbor two houses down. For a home defense round, you can't beat a 20 ga pump shotgun.
I am sorry you had a problem with your Mossberg. I have had mine for somewhere between twenty and thirty years and just used it a couple of weeks ago on a bird hunt, You must have gotten one of a very few bad ones. I have friends who have and use Mossbergs and you are the first I have ever heard of to have that problem.

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from blackdawgz wrote 4 years 25 weeks ago

None of them, especially for defense. I bought one for duck/goose hunting, and half the time it wouldn't eject. When it did, it required the strength of Hulk Hogan. Upon cycling, it took such a gargantuan effort that the birds were all gone and the shotgun was pointed at least 30 degrees away. This is coming from somebody who can do 80 good pushups. It I was being attacked, I wouldn't be here to talk about it. If your life is at stake, then cost is no object. The Desert Eagle .44 Mag is more than a match for any North American Land animal. Beyond that, the sky's the limit for mega-caliber six-shooters. A Super Black Eagle with slugs. Anything is a better choice than a Mossberg. It spoiled my only hunt of the year.

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from surfkid1 wrote 4 years 28 weeks ago

The mossberg 500a is more verstile can change barrels to a sluggerif need be. But I don't know your laws where you live but you may not be able to carry a gun while bow hunting. I we can't where i live

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from ML Moore wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

Bo....thanks for the feedback. ML

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from Bo wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

No it is not, particularly if you plan on retreating to a certain room. It is just like everything else, practice on how you will use it. Make sure is it is empty when you do your dry run. A gun you have never practiced with can be more dangerous to you than to your assailant.

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from ML Moore wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

correction..."standard size 20 quage"....

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from ML Moore wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

Follow up question? I'm considering a 20 guage for home protection. One that both me and my wife can handle. Many have suggested a youth Mossberg or Remington. However, if I can buy a 20 guage that I can also shoot in the field, I would rather do that. Is the barrel length (26") of the standard size 29 gauge to long for home protection use? Thanks.

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from oldhunter wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Your starting to Archery hunt and worried about which shotgun you need for selfefense? sounds bizzare to me. I'bowhunted in Michigan and out West for many years and have never even been close to a situation where I would need to protect myself, however if I did my trusty 44 Mag would do just fine. To your question a mossberg 500 with a 26 inch barrel in 12 ga would be fine. however why would you really need it while bow hunting, plus it would be in your way. Get a 500 with a 28 inch barrel and choke tubes and you can use it for home defense and go bird and waterfowl hunting also. I am notm sure where youare located but you might want to check with the state game laws tyo see if you can even carry a gun while bowhunting. I know many states don't allow it unless you have a conceled carry permit.

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from Bo wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

I think you will be happy with that. I love mine, had it for 20-25 years. Still love it. Still shoots like new.

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from sotik wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Well I got a 500 combo gun that comes with a field and security barrel and I will end up buying a slugster for it at a later date. Hopefully it will serve my purposes.

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from sotik wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Biggest I have to worry about is a brown bear but you are right, even the best ammo from the best gun won't matter if i missed vital organs or plain miss the bear. I think I am sold on the 500 :D our wal-mart here doesn't carry guns sadly. Stopped about 4 years back, won't even sell ammo for them and are trying to get rid of their fishing stock. Thanks for the advice! You have been most helpful.

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from Bo wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Check you local Wal-Mart. Some of them carry Mossbergs in 12 or 20. Usually for less than $250.
As far as a charging bear, toss a quarter, heads or tails. A guy I heard talk once had spent some time in Grizzly country, he said he would not use anything smaller than a 10 ga where there were Grizzlies. Black bears were a different story. As with any potentially dangerous game, shot placement is sometimes more important that the size of the gun. Even a 10 gauge hitting nothing vital is no good in the face of a charging grizzly.

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from sotik wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Would a 500 be able to drop a charging bear given that the proper slugs were used? That to me is my main reasoning to getting it, home defense second, and hunting last. I think I will go with the mossberg 500 field 12 gauge 28" barrel model #50120

If no stores around here sell it, since I am limited where I can shop around here and you can't get guns online... I don't think. I will just have to settle for the 535 ats field/deer combo 12 gauge 28" field and 24" slugster since I know out big 5 carries that gun here.

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from Bo wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

The Mossberg 590A1 is labeled a special purpose shotgun. The primary function of the 590A1 is for law enforcement.It has a nine shot capacity tube. In some places, they will take your gun away and give you a bunch of tickets to pay, if they catch you hunting with that. Not worth the expense. That is the reason you can't get more than 5 or six shells in a hunting shotgun. It gets too expensive when the game warden takes your gun.

I would recommend a Mossberg 500 which would be more versatile. A regular model 500 in 12 or 20 gauge will be a good all around gun. If you use it for home protection, I would advise against using slugs. If you shoot it in your home at an intruder and the slug goes through the intruder, it could continue on through your wall and into the neighbor's house. You could be prosecuted if anyone is injured or killed. You don't want to go there.

Years ago, a friend of mine who was a cop told me that my best bet for home defense if I was going to use a shotgun, which was his recommendation, is load it with # 4 or # 6 shot. It will kill anyone at close range in your house but will not penetrate 6 walls and kill your neighbor unless it goes through a window. Even then it is not likely to kill someone a good distance away. Keeps your liability down.

For home defense, I keep a Mossberg 500 in 20 Ga loaded with # 4 shot, with an IC choke there are four rounds in the tube, empty chamber. At the ranges encountered in my house it will kill anyone, but will not penetrate outside the house.

For hunting, I can use that setup without problems, I have killed a lot of birds and small game using it. I bought a rifled barrel for shooting slugs if I want/ need to use it for bigger game.

I would discourage the 590A1 for anything but law enforcement purposes. That is what it was designed for. If you get in a firefight in your home where you need more than 5 rounds, you are in way over your head at the get go.

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from sotik wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Would a 500 be able to drop a charging bear given that the proper slugs were used? That to me is my main reasoning to getting it, home defense second, and hunting last. I think I will go with the mossberg 500 field 12 gauge 28" barrel model #50120

If no stores around here sell it, since I am limited where I can shop around here and you can't get guns online... I don't think. I will just have to settle for the 535 ats field/deer combo 12 gauge 28" field and 24" slugster since I know out big 5 carries that gun here.

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from sotik wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Biggest I have to worry about is a brown bear but you are right, even the best ammo from the best gun won't matter if i missed vital organs or plain miss the bear. I think I am sold on the 500 :D our wal-mart here doesn't carry guns sadly. Stopped about 4 years back, won't even sell ammo for them and are trying to get rid of their fishing stock. Thanks for the advice! You have been most helpful.

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from Bo wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

The Mossberg 590A1 is labeled a special purpose shotgun. The primary function of the 590A1 is for law enforcement.It has a nine shot capacity tube. In some places, they will take your gun away and give you a bunch of tickets to pay, if they catch you hunting with that. Not worth the expense. That is the reason you can't get more than 5 or six shells in a hunting shotgun. It gets too expensive when the game warden takes your gun.

I would recommend a Mossberg 500 which would be more versatile. A regular model 500 in 12 or 20 gauge will be a good all around gun. If you use it for home protection, I would advise against using slugs. If you shoot it in your home at an intruder and the slug goes through the intruder, it could continue on through your wall and into the neighbor's house. You could be prosecuted if anyone is injured or killed. You don't want to go there.

Years ago, a friend of mine who was a cop told me that my best bet for home defense if I was going to use a shotgun, which was his recommendation, is load it with # 4 or # 6 shot. It will kill anyone at close range in your house but will not penetrate 6 walls and kill your neighbor unless it goes through a window. Even then it is not likely to kill someone a good distance away. Keeps your liability down.

For home defense, I keep a Mossberg 500 in 20 Ga loaded with # 4 shot, with an IC choke there are four rounds in the tube, empty chamber. At the ranges encountered in my house it will kill anyone, but will not penetrate outside the house.

For hunting, I can use that setup without problems, I have killed a lot of birds and small game using it. I bought a rifled barrel for shooting slugs if I want/ need to use it for bigger game.

I would discourage the 590A1 for anything but law enforcement purposes. That is what it was designed for. If you get in a firefight in your home where you need more than 5 rounds, you are in way over your head at the get go.

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from Bo wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Check you local Wal-Mart. Some of them carry Mossbergs in 12 or 20. Usually for less than $250.
As far as a charging bear, toss a quarter, heads or tails. A guy I heard talk once had spent some time in Grizzly country, he said he would not use anything smaller than a 10 ga where there were Grizzlies. Black bears were a different story. As with any potentially dangerous game, shot placement is sometimes more important that the size of the gun. Even a 10 gauge hitting nothing vital is no good in the face of a charging grizzly.

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from sotik wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Well I got a 500 combo gun that comes with a field and security barrel and I will end up buying a slugster for it at a later date. Hopefully it will serve my purposes.

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from oldhunter wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

Your starting to Archery hunt and worried about which shotgun you need for selfefense? sounds bizzare to me. I'bowhunted in Michigan and out West for many years and have never even been close to a situation where I would need to protect myself, however if I did my trusty 44 Mag would do just fine. To your question a mossberg 500 with a 26 inch barrel in 12 ga would be fine. however why would you really need it while bow hunting, plus it would be in your way. Get a 500 with a 28 inch barrel and choke tubes and you can use it for home defense and go bird and waterfowl hunting also. I am notm sure where youare located but you might want to check with the state game laws tyo see if you can even carry a gun while bowhunting. I know many states don't allow it unless you have a conceled carry permit.

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from ML Moore wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

Follow up question? I'm considering a 20 guage for home protection. One that both me and my wife can handle. Many have suggested a youth Mossberg or Remington. However, if I can buy a 20 guage that I can also shoot in the field, I would rather do that. Is the barrel length (26") of the standard size 29 gauge to long for home protection use? Thanks.

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from Bo wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

No it is not, particularly if you plan on retreating to a certain room. It is just like everything else, practice on how you will use it. Make sure is it is empty when you do your dry run. A gun you have never practiced with can be more dangerous to you than to your assailant.

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from ML Moore wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

Bo....thanks for the feedback. ML

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from surfkid1 wrote 4 years 28 weeks ago

The mossberg 500a is more verstile can change barrels to a sluggerif need be. But I don't know your laws where you live but you may not be able to carry a gun while bow hunting. I we can't where i live

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from Bo wrote 4 years 25 weeks ago

blackdawgz, you just got a defective gun if you had that kind of problem. I can shoot fast mine enough that I can see three wads in the air and used to be fairly accurate. I am not nearly as strong or fast as I used to be. I have a .44 Mag and would not use it in town for self defense. I don't really want to shoot a neighbor two houses down. For a home defense round, you can't beat a 20 ga pump shotgun.
I am sorry you had a problem with your Mossberg. I have had mine for somewhere between twenty and thirty years and just used it a couple of weeks ago on a bird hunt, You must have gotten one of a very few bad ones. I have friends who have and use Mossbergs and you are the first I have ever heard of to have that problem.

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from billy09 wrote 4 years 22 weeks ago

Bo I agree. I bought my first shotgun 4 yrs ago at a local pawnshop. It was a used Mossberg 500A1 with a 28inch barrell. All black and at the time i didnt know anything about shotguns but i liked the way it felt and the weight of it too. I got it for 168 with tax included. Ive had it for 4 yrs and counting now but ive never had a problem with it. Ive shot 400 rounds threw it in one day on multiple occasions without cleaning it from previous skeet shoots or hunts and It has never had a jam or any other problem. Its the best shotgun I have ever shot, considering i have shot my friends Remington 870 with mossy oak camo. These things are realiable and if you want one for self defense then get a 500 with 18.5 barrell 6 shot or 20 inch barrell 9 shot 12guage. You can also get a 590A1 but will cost more.
I wouldnt recommend carrying it while bow hunting. Get a hand gun instead. Oh by the way I do clean my firearms but i do get lazy sometimes.

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from dogtown101 wrote 3 years 13 weeks ago

I really like my 835 ulti mag. With its ability to shoot 3 and a half inch double aught buck it will kill anything you shoot at it

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from Bo wrote 4 years 38 weeks ago

I think you will be happy with that. I love mine, had it for 20-25 years. Still love it. Still shoots like new.

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from ML Moore wrote 4 years 37 weeks ago

correction..."standard size 20 quage"....

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from blackdawgz wrote 4 years 25 weeks ago

None of them, especially for defense. I bought one for duck/goose hunting, and half the time it wouldn't eject. When it did, it required the strength of Hulk Hogan. Upon cycling, it took such a gargantuan effort that the birds were all gone and the shotgun was pointed at least 30 degrees away. This is coming from somebody who can do 80 good pushups. It I was being attacked, I wouldn't be here to talk about it. If your life is at stake, then cost is no object. The Desert Eagle .44 Mag is more than a match for any North American Land animal. Beyond that, the sky's the limit for mega-caliber six-shooters. A Super Black Eagle with slugs. Anything is a better choice than a Mossberg. It spoiled my only hunt of the year.

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from Arya Abadsafian wrote 1 year 37 weeks ago

Hi,
I saw your quest for a Mossberg. I recently talked with a former competitive shooter who worked at the gun section at my local sports goods store. At the time I was looking for a Benelli, and he gave me a good 30 min talk about Benelli's being worse than Marlins and so on...
He mentioned a Mossberg 500 that was a very solid all around shotgun. I asked him If I could hunt with it, even though I plan on only going skeet shooting. He said that this gone is excellent for skeet shooting and hunting large game animals. It is a 12ga 20" barrel pump shotgun. The best in its price range ($150 at the store). Great considering it fits my budget and I can use it down the road for hunting later. Just thought I'd pass on the advice he gave me...

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