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Big Black Cats In America?

Big black cat sightings in North America do you belive are do you think its mass illusion or peoples imagination? If you care to tell us about a sighting you had are herd someone believable tell you about a big black cat sighting? Maybe you disagree and think there are no such animals in North America we want to hear you side of this debate. I personally wasent a beliver until this past summer when I had my unexplained sighting I will leave a comment to tell my storie. Here is a link with lots of others claiming to see this big black cat? So is it real if so what is it? http://www.topix.com/forum/city/eros-la/TB6M605R0L4AF28N3

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from Henry Sasser wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Several years ago here in hernando Florida I kept hearing more than usual traffic in my back yard. One night while I was out I had a large beam flashlight so when I heard the noise I shone the light towards it. Two green eyes, like emeralds immediately pierced the night. I caught a fleeting glimpse of a large cat hanging on a tree trunk maybe 3 feet from the ground, it was black and unlike any house cat I ever saw , much too large. The next day I went to the spot and there was a large dead rat where the cat had been. Six months later my friend that lives up the hill from me called he had seen a large cat circling on the trail between our houses. Then the cat laid down, he described it as the size of his dog a Labrador in height. By the time I got up the trail there was no sign of it. Finally about three months later I was sitting in the yard at dawn during the winter, looking up the hill I thought I saw my friends dog out on his lawn. It was just walking very slowly, stopping, acting as if it was hunting . Finally I called out to it , it bolted towards the green belt between our houses. from it's movements as it ran it was a cat. I have never seen it again, but never forget it when I walk up to my friends house.

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from JHP wrote 45 weeks 4 days ago

Here is a link about a big cat that was hit and killed by a car in Connecticut. It made a 1800 mile journey, apparently looking for new territory. DNA was able to trace it back to a western group of mt. lions.

www.ct.com/news/advocates/latest-news/nm-ht29ncmtnlions-20120710,0,73413...

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

JM, nature is full of wonders, thanks for the post

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from JM wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

One of my high school teachers claimed to catch a solid black bobcat that he said weighed more than 40 pounds in a leg hold trap but didn't want to kill it so he let it go. The man is more than 70 years old and has been trapping(and teaching) his entire life so I do not think he would of had any reason to lie. This happened a long time ago though.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

thanks for the post's fellas

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from Matt Kinnamont wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

I personally saw a Black Mountain Lion--completely jet black, with maybe some dusty markings on his side--on this Thanksgiving morning (10am)in Oroville, CA. I was at the most 66 ft. from him, and I watched him for over 7 mins.
This was not a leopard or jaguar--it had all the features of a Mountain Lion, particularly that big, uniformly thick tail.
I surprised him as he was moving through a small orchard--I saw his complete body on 2 separate occasions, but most of the time he was crouched way low into some shortish grass.
We also seem to have a population of them in the east SF Bay area.

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from VaRandy wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

I personally saw a large black cat in bright daylight and from 30 feet to 100 yards away this year.Much research on my part has me saying unequivically that it was a black Jaguar which was in the Melanistic phase. HE was young and only about 65-70 lbs, I studied every inch of him in my short viewing.
The real problem is where I saw him because obviously they don't exist anywhere, not even to mention North Carolina. He was crossing State route 12 which is the only road through the outer banks from Nags Head to Hatteras. He was a couple of miles NORTH of Oregon Inlet in an area of all marsh and savannah like grass between the Ocean and the Sound.
Since then I have followed all I can find about Jaquars in the US and can see a pattern from Fla through NC with more than a few QUALITY sightings. They can travel that thoroughfare without contact with humans without difficulty.
NO, it was not a bobcat, a housecat, a labroador retreiver, etc.
The few people that see one of these exotic cats are blessed to have had the opportunity.

Serious inquiries from researchers are welcomed,

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from Cody Ayers wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

BLACK PANTHER IN FLORIDA

I'm nearly positive that I saw one on Merritt Island along I-95. I had just crossed the bridge from the mainland to Merritt Island (on my way from Daytona Beach to Port Canaveral). My girlfriend was driving and I was in the passenger seat, just looking out the window when I noticed the animal near the treeline. It appeared to be a large black cat (4-6' in length). I noticed a long tail and muscular definition in the shoulders/upper legs that resembled a cougar or jaguar. Amazing...

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Makayla Grant, Thanks for the post!

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from Makayla Grant wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

An elderly man on my road lost his dog to a HUGE black cat about two years ago,the cat picked it up in its mouth and drug it off, this was seen by him and my grand parents. Just recently me my cousin my grandma and my sister were on our pourch wen we herd some thing....roar ,i guess would be the best description, twice.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 3 years 1 week ago

JonBoyNDN, thanks for the comments & links

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from JonBoyNDN wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

this is a link to a story by a missouri woman....with photos to boot! her story was pretty scary

http://www.kmbc.com/r/16369255/detail.html

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from JonBoyNDN wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

here is that link on youtube of the panther near selma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOHFT9RUW3I

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from JonBoyNDN wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

I want to add one more story. One of the previous posts described a family being followed home at night after church. Years ago, my family lived in "the thicket". I guess there was a certain sense of security living under such a thick forest canopy. There was a dirt road that led to the houses and a creek (which was the beginning of the perdido river). One night my granny was walking home, in the dark, and could tell she was being followed. She made it in safely and locked the door. Back then the yards were swept to dirt, so there was no grass to cut around the house. But the next morning there were tracks all around her house in the dirt where the panther stayed to sniff her out. I would really like to catch one on camera...they are stealthful, amazing creatures. Also, this is a very important point: they are migratory!!!! The elders here tell of the panther "coming through" at around the same time annually. Sadly, because of "progress", sightings have diminished as result of building developments. But this would be an awesome passtime to try and catch them on camera traps. Alright, I'm shutting up now.

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from JonBoyNDN wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

The black cats have always been a part of our life here in southern rural Alabama. I live on the only indian reservation in the state which is located right on the head of the perdido river. It looks like a cypress swamp. The last one I heard, not saw, was around '86 or '87. It was spring and I was sleeping with the window up. When I heard the tell-tale "scream". Sounds like a cross between woman, baby, and some big cat you've heard on tv. The last one I saw beside the road was near sardine creek, my wife saw it too. There is a video of one near Selma on youtube.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 3 weeks ago

Well I found a video with a photo of a ...... at 3:35 into the video. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFaL3d-zMpY&feature=related

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 3 weeks ago

turkey777, in the 1300's europeans used to laugh at the thought of the world being round. there still lots we dont know as humans

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 3 weeks ago

haveseenbigbla..., thanks for the detailed encounter!!

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from ihaveseenbigbla... wrote 4 years 4 weeks ago

I had the opportunity to see a large black cat around the Walter Bouldin dam area in Wetumpka AL. WHICH IS IN COOSA COUNTY . it was around dusk dark and a friend and I had crossed the top of the dam to get to the Crenshaw side to do some night time fishing. Lo and behold and the base of the dam area a a fifty of sixty pound black cat. You talk about being scared ! Then ten years later in
2008 i see one chasing a rabbit in broad daylight on the road leading to the parking area of the same dam . I have also seen a black bear and a good sized gator near the spillway which is downriver from Walter Bouldin Dam . If you are in this area be careful , there is plenty of wildlife in rural Alabama that Game and fish don't want you to know about . I have also seen Golden eagles in Montgomery , Tallapoosa , and Macon counties . They say the red wolf is extripated in Alabama , another lie . Have seen one in the Vista View area of Montgomery where there is a large population of rabbits . Be on the lookout , there is no telling what you might see .

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from turkey777 wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

You might think this is funny, but last summer when we were haying a actuakky saw one. I think they are in North America.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

thanks for the comment jacy maybee we will cross paths again I try & bring the camera with us all the time now.

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from jacy1515 wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

DJH i was blessed to have a grandfather who was born in the mountains of Arkansas and he was a story teller,he had the ability to convey evry detail and you could visualize it.He was raised in a chincked up log cabin with a dirt floor.And would tell stories of the big cats following the family home from church on Sunday nights after service,and at my tender age it didn't make any difference what color they were they were the devil resurrected.The black bear so bad that they had to build fattening cribs out of split cedar post spiked together to keep the bear from getting the hogs. This was long before stock laws,and the animals roamed free and you had to fence your yard.Makes you wish you were here a century earlier or at least if i could build that time machine where i could carry my rifle.My Grandfather was raised on Crow mountain and my mother was born at the foot of Petit Jean Mtn.But they still don't want to admit that the cats are there,Arkansas game and fish.I believe my own eye no matter how bad it is,lost one as a child homemade bow"Hickory sapling" and stick for a arrow.Learned to shoot left handed.and went on with life.Hope you at least get a photo or maybe a chance to make it offical.Good Luck DJH

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

thanks for the stories guys!!

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from clydejr wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

My dad, sister, and a neighbor saw a very large black cat with a long tail here about ten years ago. It was cutting across a field corner on a deer trail, and looked like a cougar except the color. There are certain areas here where big cats are seen often. I was scouting for early bow season and spooked a young deer around a point when I slipped around the point a few minutes later it was dead and still bleeding from the nose, it looked to have a broken neck. I don't know if it was a cat or a bear and didn't care to find out. A black cat would be nearly invisible in heavy timber in the daytime and could easily exist in the more remote areas.

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from rickgoff wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

On opening morning of deer season in KY, I saw a large, (4') cat with black and gray shading. It looked mottled. It had a long tail and I saw it for more than 5 minutes in a power line above where I was on stand. I watched it until it went into some trees close by and just disappeared. It was not a house cat or a bobcat. There have been tales of this type of cat here for a long time, but this is the first and only time I have saw it.

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from killingpasts wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

The best part about all of this is that you only need one large cat roaming around to start a breeding population when it comes to hybrids with other species. I would not be suprised if we do start seeing more sightings and evidence as time goes on due to a growing population.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

blackdawgz, yes that is true they say these cats cant live in the cold & my sighting was on a hot day well hot for around here. So that makes me wonder do these cats travel north in the summer to enjoy in these resources while they can & then follow the ducks south for the colder months. All we can do is put our heads together until these cats are found & studied.

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from blackdawgz wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

Black "panthers" are actually black leopards. It is entirely possible that some have escaped in North America, but it would be difficult to be unobserved except in the 'glades or the bayou.

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from patrick88 wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

i belive there are big black cats in america they have seen them in west virginia a guy has one on film where he lives in the southern part of the state in the mountains.people belive in big foot just because they have not killed one doesnt mean they dont exist!

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

They say jaguars can't live in the cold but there is nothing that says that a hybrid mountain lion / jaguar cross cant survive out in cold weather."A supposed puma x jaguar hybrid was shot in the Mato Grosso, South America in the early half of the 20thCentury. It was killed by Sacha Siemel whose opinion was that it was a puma x jaguar hybrid. It was heavily built with brown spots on a fawn background and a dark stripe down its back. Pumas and jaguars are both present in the area, but occupy different niches and would be unlikely to meet, let alone mate. The description of the supposed puma/jaguar hybrid was very similar to that of the captive-bred pumapards. Successful hybridization between pumas and jaguars in captivity has been alleged (in a report by Dr Helmut Hemmer, 1966), but there is no photographic evidence. The hybrids would look similar to pumapards, but with jaguar-like, rather than leopard-like, markings and would possibly be more powerfully built."link" http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/hyb-puma

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from Kody wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

When I was a kid in small town Alberta, we got 25 cents for the Friday night movie and a dime for a treat. My brother, my friends and I hit the movies every Friday. There were no ratings and we didn't care what was playing we went regardless. Sometimes there were movies that scared the heck out of us. My friends would be so scared I'd look over and they would have their tuques (hats) pulled down over their eyes. Coming home in the dark with those big trees hanging over us, we would walk back to back. Several of those big black cats were spotted during those walks. The mountains were on our door step, oddly the big cats only came down from the high country on Friday nights:-)

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

I know for a fact that mountain lions look black under the right lighting I saw this effect befor in the shadow of a tree he looked like a black panther but when he came out from uder the tree it was just a regular mountain lion. What I saw this past summer was not a mountain lion way too big & it was black no lighting illusion because my driver side head light was only feet from his hind end. Also his trotting was a pace around 25 miles per hr this thing wasent in a hurry but still had good speed going for it. Also I wanted to add that trail cameras brought the truth of the jaguar back in America. Befor the trail cam photos the stories of jaguars in America was only just that a storie they think that they killed them off in the 1800's. Where they here this whole time are did they make there way back to America possible or maybee they have been here this whole time if they been here this whole time then there has to be alot of animals we dont know about.........djh

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from Yoda wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

That's a good point because historically big cats ranged all over south, central and parts of north america. It's like when people say that there aren't cougars in one area but 100 miles in another direction or the next state over there they are with nothing to stop them from moving around. Another very good possibility.

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from The Captain wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

DJH, I know that for the longest time there was a debate over whether there were still jaguars in Texas. My grandfather found one in west Texas on a coonhunt one night in his youth. While he and his cousin got away, all three of their hounds were killed when the jaguar lost his sense of humor and descended on the pack.
I believe it was only a few years ago when one of the major hunting magazines found a jaguar in Texas.
So, I fully believe that there are jaguars in America. They are so stealthy that they can move from South America to the United States escaping detection.
One more reason to keep your powder dry!

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

this might be a possibility also maybee we are seeing black jaguars. Here is a link that fits right into this debate. http://www.arkanimals.com/2009/02/24/north-american-jaguar-collared-in-a...

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

12 years ago near a small river town a black panther escaped from someone or they turned it loose. Poor thing did not know how to subsist in the wild only weighed 80 lb when it died of lead poisoning.

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from Yoda wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

It is possible for a black variant of a big cat to exist. It's a genetic trait that shows up on occasion. Probably not very common, but it is possible for a cougar to have a black coat i suppose if it shows up in other big cats around the world. Could be a black panther that someone had as a pet and released, that is more common than people think. People will get exotic pets and when they can't take care of them, or contain them well enough they get let go.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

Also the tail was as long as its body it seemed & looked like it keep it about a couple inches of the ground. I seen my share of cougars in my life also wolves & no one owns a dog that come's close to the size around that area. I'm not claiming for sure big black cat but it was something that someone who has a life time experience in the outdoors can really explain to his better half what the thind really was! Thanks for your time DJH

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

It was a nice 92 degree day in the beginning of august me & my family just got done fishing along the Flathead river in NW Montana so we where on our way back home but we took the backrouds to check out the whitetail activity going on. It was cooling of fast because it was getting towards dark so anyways we make it about a mile and a half from home we reached a part of the road what had some sharp curves back to back & also had thick brush along the road. So we are just coming out the last cure when we ride right alongside a big black back end of a animal trotting on the road. I push the gas to try & get a look at what the heck this thing was when my better half starts getting to nervous about it (I thought she was sleeping) she says stop Im getting scared so I slow down as the animal takes a quick leap into the thidk brush out of sight. My 5yr old even knew that it was a rear moment all I hear is WOW DAD! This cat was way bigger then what other sightings report this cat was as big as 3 feet high and 4 long.

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from killingpasts wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

The best part about all of this is that you only need one large cat roaming around to start a breeding population when it comes to hybrids with other species. I would not be suprised if we do start seeing more sightings and evidence as time goes on due to a growing population.

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from ihaveseenbigbla... wrote 4 years 4 weeks ago

I had the opportunity to see a large black cat around the Walter Bouldin dam area in Wetumpka AL. WHICH IS IN COOSA COUNTY . it was around dusk dark and a friend and I had crossed the top of the dam to get to the Crenshaw side to do some night time fishing. Lo and behold and the base of the dam area a a fifty of sixty pound black cat. You talk about being scared ! Then ten years later in
2008 i see one chasing a rabbit in broad daylight on the road leading to the parking area of the same dam . I have also seen a black bear and a good sized gator near the spillway which is downriver from Walter Bouldin Dam . If you are in this area be careful , there is plenty of wildlife in rural Alabama that Game and fish don't want you to know about . I have also seen Golden eagles in Montgomery , Tallapoosa , and Macon counties . They say the red wolf is extripated in Alabama , another lie . Have seen one in the Vista View area of Montgomery where there is a large population of rabbits . Be on the lookout , there is no telling what you might see .

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from JonBoyNDN wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

The black cats have always been a part of our life here in southern rural Alabama. I live on the only indian reservation in the state which is located right on the head of the perdido river. It looks like a cypress swamp. The last one I heard, not saw, was around '86 or '87. It was spring and I was sleeping with the window up. When I heard the tell-tale "scream". Sounds like a cross between woman, baby, and some big cat you've heard on tv. The last one I saw beside the road was near sardine creek, my wife saw it too. There is a video of one near Selma on youtube.

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from JonBoyNDN wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

I want to add one more story. One of the previous posts described a family being followed home at night after church. Years ago, my family lived in "the thicket". I guess there was a certain sense of security living under such a thick forest canopy. There was a dirt road that led to the houses and a creek (which was the beginning of the perdido river). One night my granny was walking home, in the dark, and could tell she was being followed. She made it in safely and locked the door. Back then the yards were swept to dirt, so there was no grass to cut around the house. But the next morning there were tracks all around her house in the dirt where the panther stayed to sniff her out. I would really like to catch one on camera...they are stealthful, amazing creatures. Also, this is a very important point: they are migratory!!!! The elders here tell of the panther "coming through" at around the same time annually. Sadly, because of "progress", sightings have diminished as result of building developments. But this would be an awesome passtime to try and catch them on camera traps. Alright, I'm shutting up now.

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from JonBoyNDN wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

here is that link on youtube of the panther near selma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOHFT9RUW3I

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from charlie elk wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

12 years ago near a small river town a black panther escaped from someone or they turned it loose. Poor thing did not know how to subsist in the wild only weighed 80 lb when it died of lead poisoning.

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from The Captain wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

DJH, I know that for the longest time there was a debate over whether there were still jaguars in Texas. My grandfather found one in west Texas on a coonhunt one night in his youth. While he and his cousin got away, all three of their hounds were killed when the jaguar lost his sense of humor and descended on the pack.
I believe it was only a few years ago when one of the major hunting magazines found a jaguar in Texas.
So, I fully believe that there are jaguars in America. They are so stealthy that they can move from South America to the United States escaping detection.
One more reason to keep your powder dry!

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from Yoda wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

That's a good point because historically big cats ranged all over south, central and parts of north america. It's like when people say that there aren't cougars in one area but 100 miles in another direction or the next state over there they are with nothing to stop them from moving around. Another very good possibility.

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from Kody wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

When I was a kid in small town Alberta, we got 25 cents for the Friday night movie and a dime for a treat. My brother, my friends and I hit the movies every Friday. There were no ratings and we didn't care what was playing we went regardless. Sometimes there were movies that scared the heck out of us. My friends would be so scared I'd look over and they would have their tuques (hats) pulled down over their eyes. Coming home in the dark with those big trees hanging over us, we would walk back to back. Several of those big black cats were spotted during those walks. The mountains were on our door step, oddly the big cats only came down from the high country on Friday nights:-)

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from blackdawgz wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

Black "panthers" are actually black leopards. It is entirely possible that some have escaped in North America, but it would be difficult to be unobserved except in the 'glades or the bayou.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

blackdawgz, yes that is true they say these cats cant live in the cold & my sighting was on a hot day well hot for around here. So that makes me wonder do these cats travel north in the summer to enjoy in these resources while they can & then follow the ducks south for the colder months. All we can do is put our heads together until these cats are found & studied.

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from rickgoff wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

On opening morning of deer season in KY, I saw a large, (4') cat with black and gray shading. It looked mottled. It had a long tail and I saw it for more than 5 minutes in a power line above where I was on stand. I watched it until it went into some trees close by and just disappeared. It was not a house cat or a bobcat. There have been tales of this type of cat here for a long time, but this is the first and only time I have saw it.

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from clydejr wrote 4 years 11 weeks ago

My dad, sister, and a neighbor saw a very large black cat with a long tail here about ten years ago. It was cutting across a field corner on a deer trail, and looked like a cougar except the color. There are certain areas here where big cats are seen often. I was scouting for early bow season and spooked a young deer around a point when I slipped around the point a few minutes later it was dead and still bleeding from the nose, it looked to have a broken neck. I don't know if it was a cat or a bear and didn't care to find out. A black cat would be nearly invisible in heavy timber in the daytime and could easily exist in the more remote areas.

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from jacy1515 wrote 4 years 7 weeks ago

DJH i was blessed to have a grandfather who was born in the mountains of Arkansas and he was a story teller,he had the ability to convey evry detail and you could visualize it.He was raised in a chincked up log cabin with a dirt floor.And would tell stories of the big cats following the family home from church on Sunday nights after service,and at my tender age it didn't make any difference what color they were they were the devil resurrected.The black bear so bad that they had to build fattening cribs out of split cedar post spiked together to keep the bear from getting the hogs. This was long before stock laws,and the animals roamed free and you had to fence your yard.Makes you wish you were here a century earlier or at least if i could build that time machine where i could carry my rifle.My Grandfather was raised on Crow mountain and my mother was born at the foot of Petit Jean Mtn.But they still don't want to admit that the cats are there,Arkansas game and fish.I believe my own eye no matter how bad it is,lost one as a child homemade bow"Hickory sapling" and stick for a arrow.Learned to shoot left handed.and went on with life.Hope you at least get a photo or maybe a chance to make it offical.Good Luck DJH

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from turkey777 wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

You might think this is funny, but last summer when we were haying a actuakky saw one. I think they are in North America.

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from JonBoyNDN wrote 3 years 3 weeks ago

this is a link to a story by a missouri woman....with photos to boot! her story was pretty scary

http://www.kmbc.com/r/16369255/detail.html

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from Makayla Grant wrote 2 years 36 weeks ago

An elderly man on my road lost his dog to a HUGE black cat about two years ago,the cat picked it up in its mouth and drug it off, this was seen by him and my grand parents. Just recently me my cousin my grandma and my sister were on our pourch wen we herd some thing....roar ,i guess would be the best description, twice.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

It was a nice 92 degree day in the beginning of august me & my family just got done fishing along the Flathead river in NW Montana so we where on our way back home but we took the backrouds to check out the whitetail activity going on. It was cooling of fast because it was getting towards dark so anyways we make it about a mile and a half from home we reached a part of the road what had some sharp curves back to back & also had thick brush along the road. So we are just coming out the last cure when we ride right alongside a big black back end of a animal trotting on the road. I push the gas to try & get a look at what the heck this thing was when my better half starts getting to nervous about it (I thought she was sleeping) she says stop Im getting scared so I slow down as the animal takes a quick leap into the thidk brush out of sight. My 5yr old even knew that it was a rear moment all I hear is WOW DAD! This cat was way bigger then what other sightings report this cat was as big as 3 feet high and 4 long.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

Also the tail was as long as its body it seemed & looked like it keep it about a couple inches of the ground. I seen my share of cougars in my life also wolves & no one owns a dog that come's close to the size around that area. I'm not claiming for sure big black cat but it was something that someone who has a life time experience in the outdoors can really explain to his better half what the thind really was! Thanks for your time DJH

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from Yoda wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

It is possible for a black variant of a big cat to exist. It's a genetic trait that shows up on occasion. Probably not very common, but it is possible for a cougar to have a black coat i suppose if it shows up in other big cats around the world. Could be a black panther that someone had as a pet and released, that is more common than people think. People will get exotic pets and when they can't take care of them, or contain them well enough they get let go.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

this might be a possibility also maybee we are seeing black jaguars. Here is a link that fits right into this debate. http://www.arkanimals.com/2009/02/24/north-american-jaguar-collared-in-a...

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 13 weeks ago

I know for a fact that mountain lions look black under the right lighting I saw this effect befor in the shadow of a tree he looked like a black panther but when he came out from uder the tree it was just a regular mountain lion. What I saw this past summer was not a mountain lion way too big & it was black no lighting illusion because my driver side head light was only feet from his hind end. Also his trotting was a pace around 25 miles per hr this thing wasent in a hurry but still had good speed going for it. Also I wanted to add that trail cameras brought the truth of the jaguar back in America. Befor the trail cam photos the stories of jaguars in America was only just that a storie they think that they killed them off in the 1800's. Where they here this whole time are did they make there way back to America possible or maybee they have been here this whole time if they been here this whole time then there has to be alot of animals we dont know about.........djh

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

They say jaguars can't live in the cold but there is nothing that says that a hybrid mountain lion / jaguar cross cant survive out in cold weather."A supposed puma x jaguar hybrid was shot in the Mato Grosso, South America in the early half of the 20thCentury. It was killed by Sacha Siemel whose opinion was that it was a puma x jaguar hybrid. It was heavily built with brown spots on a fawn background and a dark stripe down its back. Pumas and jaguars are both present in the area, but occupy different niches and would be unlikely to meet, let alone mate. The description of the supposed puma/jaguar hybrid was very similar to that of the captive-bred pumapards. Successful hybridization between pumas and jaguars in captivity has been alleged (in a report by Dr Helmut Hemmer, 1966), but there is no photographic evidence. The hybrids would look similar to pumapards, but with jaguar-like, rather than leopard-like, markings and would possibly be more powerfully built."link" http://www.messybeast.com/genetics/hyb-puma

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from patrick88 wrote 4 years 12 weeks ago

i belive there are big black cats in america they have seen them in west virginia a guy has one on film where he lives in the southern part of the state in the mountains.people belive in big foot just because they have not killed one doesnt mean they dont exist!

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 9 weeks ago

thanks for the stories guys!!

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 6 weeks ago

thanks for the comment jacy maybee we will cross paths again I try & bring the camera with us all the time now.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 3 weeks ago

haveseenbigbla..., thanks for the detailed encounter!!

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 3 weeks ago

turkey777, in the 1300's europeans used to laugh at the thought of the world being round. there still lots we dont know as humans

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 4 years 3 weeks ago

Well I found a video with a photo of a ...... at 3:35 into the video. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFaL3d-zMpY&feature=related

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 3 years 1 week ago

JonBoyNDN, thanks for the comments & links

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 2 years 35 weeks ago

Makayla Grant, Thanks for the post!

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from Cody Ayers wrote 1 year 30 weeks ago

BLACK PANTHER IN FLORIDA

I'm nearly positive that I saw one on Merritt Island along I-95. I had just crossed the bridge from the mainland to Merritt Island (on my way from Daytona Beach to Port Canaveral). My girlfriend was driving and I was in the passenger seat, just looking out the window when I noticed the animal near the treeline. It appeared to be a large black cat (4-6' in length). I noticed a long tail and muscular definition in the shoulders/upper legs that resembled a cougar or jaguar. Amazing...

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from VaRandy wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

I personally saw a large black cat in bright daylight and from 30 feet to 100 yards away this year.Much research on my part has me saying unequivically that it was a black Jaguar which was in the Melanistic phase. HE was young and only about 65-70 lbs, I studied every inch of him in my short viewing.
The real problem is where I saw him because obviously they don't exist anywhere, not even to mention North Carolina. He was crossing State route 12 which is the only road through the outer banks from Nags Head to Hatteras. He was a couple of miles NORTH of Oregon Inlet in an area of all marsh and savannah like grass between the Ocean and the Sound.
Since then I have followed all I can find about Jaquars in the US and can see a pattern from Fla through NC with more than a few QUALITY sightings. They can travel that thoroughfare without contact with humans without difficulty.
NO, it was not a bobcat, a housecat, a labroador retreiver, etc.
The few people that see one of these exotic cats are blessed to have had the opportunity.

Serious inquiries from researchers are welcomed,

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from Matt Kinnamont wrote 1 year 19 weeks ago

I personally saw a Black Mountain Lion--completely jet black, with maybe some dusty markings on his side--on this Thanksgiving morning (10am)in Oroville, CA. I was at the most 66 ft. from him, and I watched him for over 7 mins.
This was not a leopard or jaguar--it had all the features of a Mountain Lion, particularly that big, uniformly thick tail.
I surprised him as he was moving through a small orchard--I saw his complete body on 2 separate occasions, but most of the time he was crouched way low into some shortish grass.
We also seem to have a population of them in the east SF Bay area.

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from JM wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

One of my high school teachers claimed to catch a solid black bobcat that he said weighed more than 40 pounds in a leg hold trap but didn't want to kill it so he let it go. The man is more than 70 years old and has been trapping(and teaching) his entire life so I do not think he would of had any reason to lie. This happened a long time ago though.

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from JHP wrote 45 weeks 4 days ago

Here is a link about a big cat that was hit and killed by a car in Connecticut. It made a 1800 mile journey, apparently looking for new territory. DNA was able to trace it back to a western group of mt. lions.

www.ct.com/news/advocates/latest-news/nm-ht29ncmtnlions-20120710,0,73413...

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from Henry Sasser wrote 38 weeks 4 days ago

Several years ago here in hernando Florida I kept hearing more than usual traffic in my back yard. One night while I was out I had a large beam flashlight so when I heard the noise I shone the light towards it. Two green eyes, like emeralds immediately pierced the night. I caught a fleeting glimpse of a large cat hanging on a tree trunk maybe 3 feet from the ground, it was black and unlike any house cat I ever saw , much too large. The next day I went to the spot and there was a large dead rat where the cat had been. Six months later my friend that lives up the hill from me called he had seen a large cat circling on the trail between our houses. Then the cat laid down, he described it as the size of his dog a Labrador in height. By the time I got up the trail there was no sign of it. Finally about three months later I was sitting in the yard at dawn during the winter, looking up the hill I thought I saw my friends dog out on his lawn. It was just walking very slowly, stopping, acting as if it was hunting . Finally I called out to it , it bolted towards the green belt between our houses. from it's movements as it ran it was a cat. I have never seen it again, but never forget it when I walk up to my friends house.

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

thanks for the post's fellas

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from www.dropjhook.com wrote 1 year 14 weeks ago

JM, nature is full of wonders, thanks for the post

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