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In your opinion what is the best load for geese. It can be anywhere from 2 3/4 up to 3 1/2, including 20, 12 and 10 ga.
From my past experience with the waterfowl loads available today, I found that Remington's Hypersonic Steel load works best. The Hypersonic Steel loads have a velocity of 1700 ft/sec. Although there are other loads out there that are faster than 1700 ft/sec, I found that out of the shotgun I use, these hit the hardest. I think that the faster the velocity, the harder the bb's inside the shell hit the target.
I do understand how others who have commented in this blog about how they think that with the slower velocities, it leaves less margin for error (in this case, a miss of the intended target). Although I understand what is being said, I do not think that it plays that big of a role. When the velocities are 1400-1700 feet/sec, there isn't really any margin of error if you ask me.
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I believe in black cloud but cannot justify cost per shot. I used to believe I would get whatever I can in BB 3". There are so many variables when you switch shells all the time and it will contribute greatly to your accuracy as well as other factors like the operation of your weapon and cleaning intervals. For instance I picked up some Federal Shok 3" shells and had to clean my 11-87 (complete teardown) every trip out even if I had only fired 2 or 3 shells. The residue left behind was like a thick layer of tar. I switched to remington sportsman and it my gun ran clean and I would only have to clean it lightly every box or so of shells or after a full day in the field. As well with the federal shells if I did spend all day in the field I would get random jams and misfeeds in my gun. With the remington shells I would get flawless operation. However I had trouble downing birds with the remington shells, I don't know if my lead was off or that they didn't pattern right but I was missing A LOT. This year I'm going to buy a couple cases of one brand, then go pattern my gun and shoot some clays with steel so I can be sure my lead is on.
i've just bought a remington 887 pump 12 ga. It's 3 1/2 in. and it only came with a modified choke. For ducks i use 3 1/2 2's and for geese i use 3 1/2 BBB's and of course BLACK CLOUD!!!!!!! Best 2 words possible for shotgun shells. A bit pricey but hey its big time worth it! I had a flock of about 50 geese come in with modified choke in and black cloud 3 1/2 BBB and i dropped 2 with 2 shots and neither cripples.Pretty much black cloud 3 1/2 2,BB,BBB best kinda shells for geese.
Hey fellow hunters, I have been in the fields for numerous years (geese,ducks,pheasants). I have found that hunting in decoys or pass shooting you cant beat BBB. But I have found that shooting 1 shot in decoys 3 1/2 inch by the way seems to be the way to go. I recentelly got rid of my remington SP-10 to get a Super Black Eagle 2... Well three years ago. Although I will have another 10 gauge someday I needed a all around gun. And the SBE 2 is a masterpice, but 2 years ago I started using Black Cloud loads in my 3 1/2 inch Benelli and was as impressed with the take down power (at resonable range) that it had. Plus when you went to clean the Geese you actually saw the "Black cloud" shot laying up against the breast bone as opposed to just going into the breast a 1/4 of an inch. But all in all the biggest thing is choose a shot for your application first. Geese over decoys, 1 shot,BB or BBB. Geese while pass shooting, BBB to T althogh I dont recommend T. My biggest point although I have not mentioned it is pick a shot size and the then a velocity, repeat velocity that is the biggest thing a goose hunter over looks. Stay consistent in the velocity area, cause even if there is a 50fps diffrence in velocity that can throw of your lead and I dont care what anybody says that makes all the diffrece
As to those expensive waterfowl factory loads with exotic metal pellets. I don't like a cash register going off in my head every time I pull the trigger. I am going to continue to experiment with high speed steel loads and try some of the steel chokes available. I am not prepared to define the sport as a rich man's game by shooting shells that could buy a small meal with each bang. Sorry, it just seems wrong to me and it has nothing to do with the size of your bank account.
If you are shooting a 3" Magnum 12 guage shotgun here is my advice. If you are shooting shells at less than 1450 fps you may as well be throwing rocks at the geese past 35 yards. Sure some birds could come down out to 40 yards but it is more likely they will be wounded or laughing at you as the BB's rattle off their breasts. We are using BB in winchester at 1550 fps and triple BBB in Federal at 1550 fps. I need to pattern the Winchester load as I think it is suspect but each of these rounds is taking down birds with consistency past 40 yards. I am told the Kent steel load which is in the 1450 fps velocity range patterns well enough to compensate for the lesser velocity. Yes, I bought a case of Black Cloud and will give it a whirl this season, so I can't speak to its effectiveness as yet. When we gave up the mass and energy carrying advantages of lead the only solutions were to get the steel moving at higher speeds at the muzzle to compensate the rapid loss of velocity and go to the larger diameter shot to afford the pellets some hitting power with what remained of the rapidly shedding speed. No full choke for steel shot and larger pellets don't add up to the best of patterns as the range of the birds stretches out there. Furthermore, the more grisly aspect of steel is that it is a wicked but unpredictable projective once it impacts the bird. There seems to be considerable blood loss in birds down as the pellets seem to take the path of least resistance within the bird. Where the lead shot may have busted through tougher parts the steel shot seems to cut a winding path on route. I believe we are seeing far more wounded birds in the field. I believe the steel shot forces us to be better shotgunners as it take full pattern hits to bring down the birds where the lead was more forgiving. I am going to continue to use my 3 inch gun and not resort to the 3 1/2 '' gun.
3 1/2 or 3 inch hevi shot for 3 in 1 1/2 and for 3 1/2 2 1/2 ounce ts there called dead coyote perfect for long range
I have only been hunting geese for about 2 and a half years.But in that time i have tride many differnt things.For me though the best shot gun load for canadian geese i rcomend, hevi shot 3 1/2 but thats only my second i first recomend black cloud that is the most amazing ever because of the distance and accuracy the reason is the way the very special wad is made if any one has questions let me know.
wait ive goose hunted love it but i prefer to use number bb our bigger i know you can kill uhm with 2s but im afraid of wounding more then killing goose are big can take few pellets act like there not hit mile away die im just saying bigger better in three inch!
3 1/2 all the way
i have never tried black cloud so i dont know but i have seen people shoot black cloud loads and ive seen better
BlACK CLOUD is the only way to go. First goose of the season shot at 45 yards with a 3 inch BB chambered in 12 gauge.
you need a bigger heavier load
two words BLACK CLOUD! kinda pricy but great for the money $24 for 25 shells as opposed to $30 for 10 I got a handfull at a trade show in Maryland in 07 tried them and OMG they are great! dropped fat honkers at 30 yards w/ 3in 2's (12ga of course)and the best part is they work good in the field or over water I live in Iowa now and can't wait to try them out on the light geese really soon for the spring season
I like 3in BB OR NUMBER 2
Well i guess it depends if your decoying them or jump shooting. Decoying usually means heavier loads. Jump shooting you can get away with 2 3/4. If you have no shortage of money layin around, 3 1/2's with number 4 or 6 bismuth or hevi shot are supposed to be freakin awsome. But i will never know because i cant afford those lol. I usually shoot 3" #2 steels. All of this in 12 guage of course.
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