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I plan on getting a new varmit rifle also. Mine will be a Ruger #1 in .223. I already have an AR type varmit in .223. It's not right or wrong its just my choice.
i;m not really in a position to judge the difference/ but after shooting the 223,cal i was impressed with it's downrange accuracy.
ive never shot a 223 but as far as a .22/250 goes in the hands of a competent marksman 400 yards is nothin
I use an AR type rifle in .223 for coyotes and I also use a bolt action 22-250. The 22-250 is a legendary predator slayer, flatter than flat tragectory, plenty of down range thumping power. It is the most versitile of the 22 calibers for reloaders, handling velocities from 1500 fps to 4500 fps. I rate the 22-250 excellent all the way around. The .223 is also a good choice, low recoil, fairly flat shooting out to 300 yards, stopping power on predators is good. Best of all, it comes in a semi-auto AR platform. I started my predator hunting career with this caliber (a bolt gun)and have always kept one handy. I guess it really comes down to your type of shooting. Do you expect a lot of long shots past 300 yards?...22-250. Do you hunt thick stuff where a snap shot or multiple shots may be needed?....223. Also the .223 is easier on pelts if your hunting fur, it costs less to reload, but components may be hard to get now-a-days. Personally, I have taken more predators with the .223 than any other caliber. It is the best caliber in my opiniun.
Defintiely 223. it is perfect for young deer hunters going for a first deer. I also think hthe 243.'s are excellent they'll never feel the kick.
squirrelhunter where are you from cause i have never heard of a state letting you shoot deer with a .223.....or a 22-250 in that matter
I WAS INTERESTED MYSELF HOW THINGS STACKED UP HERE ,22-250 or ,223 i had only shot the latter so i enjoyed coyote inc, comparisons and insight , i also voted him one up because i don't assume to know everything/to Lilman-d=11 KENTUCKY REGS, SAY ANY CENTERFIRE WEAPON IS LEGAL HERE , personally i don't think it's an adequate deer rifle/but i was told by a accomplised shooter that they did suffiencent damage. I even believe the 243, is a bit on the light side /but i'm sure they;ll be plenty who say otherwise,
I personally love my .22-250 for any varmit. I know some out there will be just as passionate about their .223 . You did say varmit in your question, not deer, so I will say it is personal preference with no more difference in the two calibers than there is. I believe the .250 is flatter shooting and harder hitting but a ton of varmits fall to .223's every year. Get proficent and comfortable with your choice and go kill some hogs! Making your rig as accurate as possible and practice will raise your hit ratio. The nut on the trigger is as important as any on the gun!
Ok, I'll throw a wrench in the works. I love my 220 swift and wouldn't trade it for either one of those calibers. I have a ruger mark II target rifle that will shoot sub 1/4" groups with my handloads. I have a feeling the reason the groups aren't smaller than that isn't the guns fault either (hey, I can only hold the gun so still). The velocity is amazing, as for range, it is realitivly easy to shoot ground squirrels in the head out to 300 yards or so. I am so amazed with the 220 swift that I could never recommend any other 22 cal, but in reality there is nothing wrong with either chose you listed.
I own a .204 ruger with a 25" target barrel and it's probally one of the most accurate guns I have ever shot, but if I had to pick between those two it would be the .223 for sure.
Lil man there are a couple states that allow them for deer South Dakota is one. The good thing about the .223 is cheap ammo(military case) and easy to find, but the 22-250 is quite abit faster I own 2 of both for coyotes I prefer the 22-250 but on cats I like the .223.. comes down to personal preference,, both are very accurate over 400 yards. If your deer rifle is a .243 and a .270 go with the .223 their ballistics are very similar.. 55 gr in .223 100 in the .243 and 130 in the .270.. then if you go for elk the .300 matches good also,,
Just read a couple of other comments,, it boils down to where you hit them at not what you hit them with, I know too many people who shoot a big gun to make up for poor marksmanship, stay with a gun you can shoot and put the bullet where it belongs.. DON'T take shots that aren't ethical... I got a 6 year old daughter that has harvested several deer the farthest one went was 80 yards,, of course he was shot with a bow put it where it belongs and don't fret over you have a big enough gun!!
Shot placement. I just happened to shoot a deer this last season in the neck with my 22-250, and had no problem with it. It fell down and died. I do understand that you aren't going to go around shooting grizzly bears and elephants with it, but I find it completely adequate if you can make the right shot. I just happen to be able to do that.
I have a 22-250 Rem 700 and absolutely love it. This gun is an absolute tack driver and will out gun a .223 any day unless you need to shoot really fast. I can get a ton more range out of my 22-250 than a .223.
I have a 22-250 Rem 700 and absolutely love it. This gun is an absolute tack driver and will out gun a .223 any day unless you need to shoot really fast. I can get a ton more range out of my 22-250 than a .223.
I have a 22-250 Rem 700 and absolutely love it. This gun is an absolute tack driver and will out gun a .223 any day unless you need to shoot really fast. I can get a ton more range out of my 22-250 than a .223.
thanks for all ur information. i ended up going with the 223 and i shot it toady and liked it. i havent shot very far with it yet that will be tomorrow.
i like both but i prefer a 22 250
22250 is what i have and it works out just fine
.223 has many more options as to rifle types and action types. I use a single shot bull barrel for coyotes and javelina...and my ar guns are good for fast followup shots on pests in the area. Kinda hard to choose the .22-250 such a screamer that uses up guns faster.
Ultimately, it comes down to how serious you want to get. If you are an individual that dedicates time to hand loading cartridges, the 223 has quite a few options for you to play around with and get the accuracy you are looking for. If you are looking for a quick fix, i find it hard to beat the factory loads of the 22-250.
it depends on the range 22-250s have better range, but 223s have more take down power but shorter range. it depends on the terrain of the land that you are hunting. like for big fields a 22-250 would work
The .223 ammo is cheaper in "factory" rounds.
To lilman_d_11: Several places allow the .223 to be used for deer(Ar.,La.Both Carolina's).
As a matter of fact I think the Carolina's allow the .22-250 as well.
They also allow you to use these rounds for turkeys in some states as well.
I know several people in Oklahoma that have taken deer with .223.
The Oklahoma regs state "Centerfire rifles firing at least a 55-grain weight soft-nosed or hollow-point bullet and having an overall cartridge case length of 1 1/4 inches or longer (9mm rifles are not legal)"
To lilman_d_11:New York also allows ANY CENTERFIRE rifle to harvest deer in rifle zones too!Descriptions of Legal Implements for Big Game Hunting Implement Description
Bow Long (stick), recurve or compound bow with a draw weight in excess of 35 pounds. A legal arrowhead is non-barbed, has 2 or more cutting edges and is at least 7/8 inches wide.
Muzzleloader Firearm loaded through the muzzle, a minimum bore of .44 inches and shooting a single projectile. Scopes may now be used during the Special Muzzleloading Season in addition to the Regular Big Game Season and the Early Bear Season. See Muzzleloading section of regulations for special requirements during the muzzleloading season.
Handgun* any centerfire pistol or revolver. Barrel length maximum is 16 inches
(NOTE: Possession of handguns in New York State requires a NYS Pistol Permit. New York does not recognize permits issued by other states.)
Shotgun* Must be 20 gauge of larger and fire a single projectile, rifling in the barrel or choke is allowed
Rifle* any centerfire rifle.
Honestly.... go test out both guns and and decide for yourself. I think it's all going to be a personal opinion so whatever one feels right, go with that.
It depends on what distance you are shooting? if long rang is your style 22-250 is the way to go. but if buying factory loads go with the 223 way cheaper to shoot and practice. i have both these calibers and am a reloader.
I bought a CZ Model 527 in .223 that shoulders perfectly for me. It was also extremely light and when you have issues holding a heavy forearm of a rifle such things are a consideration. If the choice is a toss up then the best deal on the rifle, its weight or the one that fits you best should guide your selection.
The thing to realize here is the fact that both of these cartridges are shooting the same bullet. 50-72 grain .224 cal projectile. The .223 is a bit cheaper and easier to find ammo for (in my area) and the 22-250 is said to wear out barrels faster (due to the increased velocity). For me personally I'm a big fan of the .223. Are you really needing to shoot a yote past 300 yards anyway? if so may I suggest a nice electronic call...
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I use an AR type rifle in .223 for coyotes and I also use a bolt action 22-250. The 22-250 is a legendary predator slayer, flatter than flat tragectory, plenty of down range thumping power. It is the most versitile of the 22 calibers for reloaders, handling velocities from 1500 fps to 4500 fps. I rate the 22-250 excellent all the way around. The .223 is also a good choice, low recoil, fairly flat shooting out to 300 yards, stopping power on predators is good. Best of all, it comes in a semi-auto AR platform. I started my predator hunting career with this caliber (a bolt gun)and have always kept one handy. I guess it really comes down to your type of shooting. Do you expect a lot of long shots past 300 yards?...22-250. Do you hunt thick stuff where a snap shot or multiple shots may be needed?....223. Also the .223 is easier on pelts if your hunting fur, it costs less to reload, but components may be hard to get now-a-days. Personally, I have taken more predators with the .223 than any other caliber. It is the best caliber in my opiniun.
I personally love my .22-250 for any varmit. I know some out there will be just as passionate about their .223 . You did say varmit in your question, not deer, so I will say it is personal preference with no more difference in the two calibers than there is. I believe the .250 is flatter shooting and harder hitting but a ton of varmits fall to .223's every year. Get proficent and comfortable with your choice and go kill some hogs! Making your rig as accurate as possible and practice will raise your hit ratio. The nut on the trigger is as important as any on the gun!
.223 has many more options as to rifle types and action types. I use a single shot bull barrel for coyotes and javelina...and my ar guns are good for fast followup shots on pests in the area. Kinda hard to choose the .22-250 such a screamer that uses up guns faster.
The .223 ammo is cheaper in "factory" rounds.
To lilman_d_11: Several places allow the .223 to be used for deer(Ar.,La.Both Carolina's).
As a matter of fact I think the Carolina's allow the .22-250 as well.
They also allow you to use these rounds for turkeys in some states as well.
I know several people in Oklahoma that have taken deer with .223.
The Oklahoma regs state "Centerfire rifles firing at least a 55-grain weight soft-nosed or hollow-point bullet and having an overall cartridge case length of 1 1/4 inches or longer (9mm rifles are not legal)"
ive never shot a 223 but as far as a .22/250 goes in the hands of a competent marksman 400 yards is nothin
I WAS INTERESTED MYSELF HOW THINGS STACKED UP HERE ,22-250 or ,223 i had only shot the latter so i enjoyed coyote inc, comparisons and insight , i also voted him one up because i don't assume to know everything/to Lilman-d=11 KENTUCKY REGS, SAY ANY CENTERFIRE WEAPON IS LEGAL HERE , personally i don't think it's an adequate deer rifle/but i was told by a accomplised shooter that they did suffiencent damage. I even believe the 243, is a bit on the light side /but i'm sure they;ll be plenty who say otherwise,
Ok, I'll throw a wrench in the works. I love my 220 swift and wouldn't trade it for either one of those calibers. I have a ruger mark II target rifle that will shoot sub 1/4" groups with my handloads. I have a feeling the reason the groups aren't smaller than that isn't the guns fault either (hey, I can only hold the gun so still). The velocity is amazing, as for range, it is realitivly easy to shoot ground squirrels in the head out to 300 yards or so. I am so amazed with the 220 swift that I could never recommend any other 22 cal, but in reality there is nothing wrong with either chose you listed.
I own a .204 ruger with a 25" target barrel and it's probally one of the most accurate guns I have ever shot, but if I had to pick between those two it would be the .223 for sure.
Lil man there are a couple states that allow them for deer South Dakota is one. The good thing about the .223 is cheap ammo(military case) and easy to find, but the 22-250 is quite abit faster I own 2 of both for coyotes I prefer the 22-250 but on cats I like the .223.. comes down to personal preference,, both are very accurate over 400 yards. If your deer rifle is a .243 and a .270 go with the .223 their ballistics are very similar.. 55 gr in .223 100 in the .243 and 130 in the .270.. then if you go for elk the .300 matches good also,,
Just read a couple of other comments,, it boils down to where you hit them at not what you hit them with, I know too many people who shoot a big gun to make up for poor marksmanship, stay with a gun you can shoot and put the bullet where it belongs.. DON'T take shots that aren't ethical... I got a 6 year old daughter that has harvested several deer the farthest one went was 80 yards,, of course he was shot with a bow put it where it belongs and don't fret over you have a big enough gun!!
I have a 22-250 Rem 700 and absolutely love it. This gun is an absolute tack driver and will out gun a .223 any day unless you need to shoot really fast. I can get a ton more range out of my 22-250 than a .223.
i like both but i prefer a 22 250
Ultimately, it comes down to how serious you want to get. If you are an individual that dedicates time to hand loading cartridges, the 223 has quite a few options for you to play around with and get the accuracy you are looking for. If you are looking for a quick fix, i find it hard to beat the factory loads of the 22-250.
it depends on the range 22-250s have better range, but 223s have more take down power but shorter range. it depends on the terrain of the land that you are hunting. like for big fields a 22-250 would work
To lilman_d_11:New York also allows ANY CENTERFIRE rifle to harvest deer in rifle zones too!Descriptions of Legal Implements for Big Game Hunting Implement Description
Bow Long (stick), recurve or compound bow with a draw weight in excess of 35 pounds. A legal arrowhead is non-barbed, has 2 or more cutting edges and is at least 7/8 inches wide.
Muzzleloader Firearm loaded through the muzzle, a minimum bore of .44 inches and shooting a single projectile. Scopes may now be used during the Special Muzzleloading Season in addition to the Regular Big Game Season and the Early Bear Season. See Muzzleloading section of regulations for special requirements during the muzzleloading season.
Handgun* any centerfire pistol or revolver. Barrel length maximum is 16 inches
(NOTE: Possession of handguns in New York State requires a NYS Pistol Permit. New York does not recognize permits issued by other states.)
Shotgun* Must be 20 gauge of larger and fire a single projectile, rifling in the barrel or choke is allowed
Rifle* any centerfire rifle.
Honestly.... go test out both guns and and decide for yourself. I think it's all going to be a personal opinion so whatever one feels right, go with that.
I bought a CZ Model 527 in .223 that shoulders perfectly for me. It was also extremely light and when you have issues holding a heavy forearm of a rifle such things are a consideration. If the choice is a toss up then the best deal on the rifle, its weight or the one that fits you best should guide your selection.
I plan on getting a new varmit rifle also. Mine will be a Ruger #1 in .223. I already have an AR type varmit in .223. It's not right or wrong its just my choice.
i;m not really in a position to judge the difference/ but after shooting the 223,cal i was impressed with it's downrange accuracy.
squirrelhunter where are you from cause i have never heard of a state letting you shoot deer with a .223.....or a 22-250 in that matter
I have a 22-250 Rem 700 and absolutely love it. This gun is an absolute tack driver and will out gun a .223 any day unless you need to shoot really fast. I can get a ton more range out of my 22-250 than a .223.
I have a 22-250 Rem 700 and absolutely love it. This gun is an absolute tack driver and will out gun a .223 any day unless you need to shoot really fast. I can get a ton more range out of my 22-250 than a .223.
thanks for all ur information. i ended up going with the 223 and i shot it toady and liked it. i havent shot very far with it yet that will be tomorrow.
22250 is what i have and it works out just fine
It depends on what distance you are shooting? if long rang is your style 22-250 is the way to go. but if buying factory loads go with the 223 way cheaper to shoot and practice. i have both these calibers and am a reloader.
The thing to realize here is the fact that both of these cartridges are shooting the same bullet. 50-72 grain .224 cal projectile. The .223 is a bit cheaper and easier to find ammo for (in my area) and the 22-250 is said to wear out barrels faster (due to the increased velocity). For me personally I'm a big fan of the .223. Are you really needing to shoot a yote past 300 yards anyway? if so may I suggest a nice electronic call...
Defintiely 223. it is perfect for young deer hunters going for a first deer. I also think hthe 243.'s are excellent they'll never feel the kick.
Shot placement. I just happened to shoot a deer this last season in the neck with my 22-250, and had no problem with it. It fell down and died. I do understand that you aren't going to go around shooting grizzly bears and elephants with it, but I find it completely adequate if you can make the right shot. I just happen to be able to do that.
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