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Survival
you always read that you should carry a first-aid kit, but how many of us actually do? I don't carry one to my tree stand every time I go out. I have one for my dog in the truck that would work for me if needed but I don't carry one with me. does anyone???
I always carry one. All it takes is to get badly burned by a camp stove, and you'll never go into the woods without burn cream and bandages again!
Just out of curiosity what do you all carry in your first-aid kit. Anything you absolutely couldn't live without.
For my money, it's 3 things:
Aspirin, Duct Tape, and moleskin fabric for blisters.
I always have one in my pickup that is a combination of stuff for me and my dog. I also usually do have a roll of duct tape but vet wrap is a neccesity. I also you Wonder Dust for horses that is a charcoal stop bleed, its great for your dog if it gets a cut and will work for you in a pinch. The rest of the stuff is a typical first aid kit that I got through my employer.
being a person (like tim taylor) that can hurt their self geting dressed i always carry one
I keep a large kit in my vehicle and a small one in my day pack. In my area of Idaho medical help can be hours or days away. If I am in the back country I always increase the size of the kit I take with me. Must haves are aspirin, benedryl, gauze, duct tape, electrical tape, bandaids, surgical gloves, tweezers, scissors, razor blade, antiseptic wipes, needle and thread, book of matches, small mirror, rubber bands, and a couple zip ties. I recomend anyone who frequents the outdoors take a first aid and cpr course every few years, as guides we are required to, in the woods you are the first responder, and life or death can depend on your immediate actions.
I carry a kit in my truck that is pretty much what I carried as a medic in the Army 35+ years ago. It is probably more extensive than what most people need. It is very good advice for every one to take a first aid course and CPR training.
As a retired ER nurse, I would caution against using burn creams. They are safe only on very minor burns, minimal first degree burns no more than a dime or nickel size. Any bigger and the creams actually can extend the damage of the burn. I have seen many people who cause more damage with burn cream than if they had done nothing. If you doubt that, go ask any ER nurse what they think about burn creams. About the only one that is safe is Silvadene but that is by prescription only and cannot be used by people allergic to Sulfa drugs.
After a little research I dropped aspirin and went to ibuprofen. It is much more effective than either aspirin or acetaminophen in reducing high fever (the only type we should be treating), has about twice the anti-inflamatory effect of aspirin (acetaminophen has none), and is safer than aspirin for children and teenagers (Reye syndrome).
I carry a very minimal kit. Neosporin, gauze pads, gauze wrap, assorted adhesive bandages, tweezers and chapstick. My 2% tincture of iodine (water purification) is in my main kit.
I just want to add 2 things to my last comment. First, I recommend everyone carry an elastic bandage (Ace, 2-inch, Velcro). These come packed with excellent instructions for treating all the various types of sprains. I once had to walk a good long way on a sprained ankle and if one of the guys hadn't had an Ace bandage and known how to use it, the options would have been to carry me or leave me. Secondly, the first thing you should see when you open your first aid kit is an antiseptic wipe. NEVER touch a patient or your own supplies until you have disinfected your hands.
I am probably like most outdoorsmen. I know I should have one in my pack, but I usually don't. I always have one in my truck. If I am on a long, extended hike, I usually have a few things in my pack. I know better, but it usually doesn't make it into the pack for a quick afternoon hunt.
As far as Ace bandages, I would recommend at least 2 in your pack. A 2" for hands & wrists, and a 4" for ankles and knees. For an ankle, you would need to use a figure 8 pattern wrap with a 4" minimum, unless it is for a child. When wrapping ankles, a 2" is too narrow and can move or slip, sometimes creating a tourniquet effect. If the injured party, who already is in pain, doesn't notice this, there can be extensive damage to the affected extremity. Improperly placed, an Ace wrap can do more damage than it would do therapeutically. Then it may take longer to heal. While working in ER, I have seen too many people who suffered more damage from an improperly used or placed Ace wrap than from the injury for which was used to treat.
I would also recommend every outdoorsman to take a Red Cross First Aid course, minimum, A basic EMT course is even better, and an AHA CPR course should go without saying. With these under your belt you will be far more equipped for life's little mishaps when out in the wilds.
There seems to be nothing worse that any man could go through than to watch someone you care about dying and not being able to do anything about it either through lack of training or other circumstances beyond your control. The more prepared you are, the less likely you will experience that grief.
I carry a couple of Army shell dressings , a few triangular bandages , duct tape , ace bandages (as above) (ever try to splint a broken leg with some torn strips off your shirt?), a couple of small emergency blankets and all the usual small dressings and stuff found in commercial kits. Aspirin for us older guys (40 plus) in case of heart problems in addition to the ibuprophen ( I have nitro in pocket at all times)If its still in the truck it might just as well be back home for all the good its going to do; just like a survival kit left there also! Get some training , its essential. Throw the FAK in a small backpack with your survival kit and lunch and when you need it most it will be there. Its the sports who leave camp for an hour or so with just a rifle and a few rounds that end up in trouble and usually become a statistic. FAKs and survival kits are your insurance policy, they put the odds in your favor when problems arise in the outdoors. They may keep you off the front page of your local paper!
Ace wraps are great if you have some compressed gauze you can do away with all other pressure dressings and slings thus reducing weight. An ace wrap wrapped over some gauze or clothe tightly will stop many nasty wounds from bleeding out. Check out the emergency trauma dressing aka the israeli. it has gauze connected to an ace wrap and can be used as a tourniquet, pressure dressing or a sling. I have used them to many times to count. I would not do away withthe aspirin if you are hunting with older hunters it could help in the event of a heart attack or stroke. A small package of quickclot will also be nice if you have real gusher going on it stops the bleeding like no other.
i always have one no matter were i go even in school i carry a couple of bandaids around
AS a Ex Ski Patrolman I'm a tad anal on first aid I make sure that I carry a well stocked kit in case of a a health crisis, plus There is one in all our cars, just in case we happen to run in to a problem.
I carry one with me when I'm hunting. I hunt wilderness areas or very remote ground where happen chance meeting of other hunters is very slim. It's one that is issued to all fire fighting crew member's. Pretty basic, but better than nothing.
Carry one, no matter where you go, I do and having one handy has benefits. I take a general first aid kit everywhere. Band aids, and various other bandages, over the counter meds, (Motrin, Benadryl, etc…). If I am fishing I make sure I have a hook removal kit, and or at least know how to make one. While hunting, I carry material for splitting. I always have a compass, matches, and knife and other survival gear, but knowing how to use it all makes the difference. So read up on what you need, and know how to use what you have before you get into a situation when you need your first aid and/or survival kits.
I always have one, I have found it to be worth the light weight it adds to the pack!
I have a fanny pack that I got from wal-mart. It's a outdoor gear one that holds two water bottles. I take it on all fishing trips and all hikes no matter how long or how short. In the fanny pack I have a first aid kit I bought from Bass pro shops for six dollars. It's small and doesn't way a lot and it was cheap. I see no reason to through it in there.
My wife gives me a hard time about the fanny pack, but it's a outdoors one, not a nerdy one.
I have 1 in my truck and carry a small "red" one on my pack while hunting/fishing. For one it "stands out" on my back in the bush if you know what I mean and in it I carry the bandaids, army shell dressings, ibuprofin, safety pins, tweezers, small splints among other things. I also carry a couple of tampons (external and internal) for blood absorbsion. The internal ones work fab for large puncture wounds from a fall onto a branch or something as they will expand and literally stop the bleeding.
I have several first-aid kits but what I carry varies greatly depending on where I'll be. When hunting or fishing close to a vehicle or phone I often carry nothing. Whatever I need can be had close at hand. When "a couple hours" out I'll have aspirin primarily in case anyone has ANY symptoms of a heart attack and a couple of bandages and/or tape. When hitting the untamed wilderness everything changes. I am then first responder AND second responder. I then carry aspirin, ibuprofin, Neosporin, silverdene burn ointment, Diprolene or cortisone cream for poison ivy/oak, etc. and for blisters, moleskin, bandages, tape, and a couple of ace bandages. I will also have a needle & thread or sutures. If fishing I'll have wire-cutters for cutting fish hooks.
The amount of that gear that goes with me daily depends on how far I'll be from camp. If I can get back to camp before I need it I don't carry it on me.
i always have one in either my daypack or fanny pack. i have tensors eye treatment . gauzes. bullet wound treatment and everything included in a military issue first aid kit.
I carry a few bandaids, OR powder for stopping hemmorage, some of the single dose aleive because it lasts 12 hours, some chewable pepto, and a roll of athletic tape. This is much stronger than paper tape and in a pinch can be twisted into a pretty stout cord to tie stuff up like for a shelter. It can be used for holding splints and if you know what you are doing support sprains. Only weighs a few ounces but keeps me on the stand. Easier to kill something that way than at the camp.
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I carry a kit in my truck that is pretty much what I carried as a medic in the Army 35+ years ago. It is probably more extensive than what most people need. It is very good advice for every one to take a first aid course and CPR training.
As a retired ER nurse, I would caution against using burn creams. They are safe only on very minor burns, minimal first degree burns no more than a dime or nickel size. Any bigger and the creams actually can extend the damage of the burn. I have seen many people who cause more damage with burn cream than if they had done nothing. If you doubt that, go ask any ER nurse what they think about burn creams. About the only one that is safe is Silvadene but that is by prescription only and cannot be used by people allergic to Sulfa drugs.
As far as Ace bandages, I would recommend at least 2 in your pack. A 2" for hands & wrists, and a 4" for ankles and knees. For an ankle, you would need to use a figure 8 pattern wrap with a 4" minimum, unless it is for a child. When wrapping ankles, a 2" is too narrow and can move or slip, sometimes creating a tourniquet effect. If the injured party, who already is in pain, doesn't notice this, there can be extensive damage to the affected extremity. Improperly placed, an Ace wrap can do more damage than it would do therapeutically. Then it may take longer to heal. While working in ER, I have seen too many people who suffered more damage from an improperly used or placed Ace wrap than from the injury for which was used to treat.
I would also recommend every outdoorsman to take a Red Cross First Aid course, minimum, A basic EMT course is even better, and an AHA CPR course should go without saying. With these under your belt you will be far more equipped for life's little mishaps when out in the wilds.
There seems to be nothing worse that any man could go through than to watch someone you care about dying and not being able to do anything about it either through lack of training or other circumstances beyond your control. The more prepared you are, the less likely you will experience that grief.
I carry a couple of Army shell dressings , a few triangular bandages , duct tape , ace bandages (as above) (ever try to splint a broken leg with some torn strips off your shirt?), a couple of small emergency blankets and all the usual small dressings and stuff found in commercial kits. Aspirin for us older guys (40 plus) in case of heart problems in addition to the ibuprophen ( I have nitro in pocket at all times)If its still in the truck it might just as well be back home for all the good its going to do; just like a survival kit left there also! Get some training , its essential. Throw the FAK in a small backpack with your survival kit and lunch and when you need it most it will be there. Its the sports who leave camp for an hour or so with just a rifle and a few rounds that end up in trouble and usually become a statistic. FAKs and survival kits are your insurance policy, they put the odds in your favor when problems arise in the outdoors. They may keep you off the front page of your local paper!
being a person (like tim taylor) that can hurt their self geting dressed i always carry one
AS a Ex Ski Patrolman I'm a tad anal on first aid I make sure that I carry a well stocked kit in case of a a health crisis, plus There is one in all our cars, just in case we happen to run in to a problem.
I have several first-aid kits but what I carry varies greatly depending on where I'll be. When hunting or fishing close to a vehicle or phone I often carry nothing. Whatever I need can be had close at hand. When "a couple hours" out I'll have aspirin primarily in case anyone has ANY symptoms of a heart attack and a couple of bandages and/or tape. When hitting the untamed wilderness everything changes. I am then first responder AND second responder. I then carry aspirin, ibuprofin, Neosporin, silverdene burn ointment, Diprolene or cortisone cream for poison ivy/oak, etc. and for blisters, moleskin, bandages, tape, and a couple of ace bandages. I will also have a needle & thread or sutures. If fishing I'll have wire-cutters for cutting fish hooks.
The amount of that gear that goes with me daily depends on how far I'll be from camp. If I can get back to camp before I need it I don't carry it on me.
I always carry one. All it takes is to get badly burned by a camp stove, and you'll never go into the woods without burn cream and bandages again!
Just out of curiosity what do you all carry in your first-aid kit. Anything you absolutely couldn't live without.
For my money, it's 3 things:
Aspirin, Duct Tape, and moleskin fabric for blisters.
I always have one in my pickup that is a combination of stuff for me and my dog. I also usually do have a roll of duct tape but vet wrap is a neccesity. I also you Wonder Dust for horses that is a charcoal stop bleed, its great for your dog if it gets a cut and will work for you in a pinch. The rest of the stuff is a typical first aid kit that I got through my employer.
I keep a large kit in my vehicle and a small one in my day pack. In my area of Idaho medical help can be hours or days away. If I am in the back country I always increase the size of the kit I take with me. Must haves are aspirin, benedryl, gauze, duct tape, electrical tape, bandaids, surgical gloves, tweezers, scissors, razor blade, antiseptic wipes, needle and thread, book of matches, small mirror, rubber bands, and a couple zip ties. I recomend anyone who frequents the outdoors take a first aid and cpr course every few years, as guides we are required to, in the woods you are the first responder, and life or death can depend on your immediate actions.
After a little research I dropped aspirin and went to ibuprofen. It is much more effective than either aspirin or acetaminophen in reducing high fever (the only type we should be treating), has about twice the anti-inflamatory effect of aspirin (acetaminophen has none), and is safer than aspirin for children and teenagers (Reye syndrome).
I carry a very minimal kit. Neosporin, gauze pads, gauze wrap, assorted adhesive bandages, tweezers and chapstick. My 2% tincture of iodine (water purification) is in my main kit.
I just want to add 2 things to my last comment. First, I recommend everyone carry an elastic bandage (Ace, 2-inch, Velcro). These come packed with excellent instructions for treating all the various types of sprains. I once had to walk a good long way on a sprained ankle and if one of the guys hadn't had an Ace bandage and known how to use it, the options would have been to carry me or leave me. Secondly, the first thing you should see when you open your first aid kit is an antiseptic wipe. NEVER touch a patient or your own supplies until you have disinfected your hands.
I am probably like most outdoorsmen. I know I should have one in my pack, but I usually don't. I always have one in my truck. If I am on a long, extended hike, I usually have a few things in my pack. I know better, but it usually doesn't make it into the pack for a quick afternoon hunt.
Ace wraps are great if you have some compressed gauze you can do away with all other pressure dressings and slings thus reducing weight. An ace wrap wrapped over some gauze or clothe tightly will stop many nasty wounds from bleeding out. Check out the emergency trauma dressing aka the israeli. it has gauze connected to an ace wrap and can be used as a tourniquet, pressure dressing or a sling. I have used them to many times to count. I would not do away withthe aspirin if you are hunting with older hunters it could help in the event of a heart attack or stroke. A small package of quickclot will also be nice if you have real gusher going on it stops the bleeding like no other.
i always have one no matter were i go even in school i carry a couple of bandaids around
I carry one with me when I'm hunting. I hunt wilderness areas or very remote ground where happen chance meeting of other hunters is very slim. It's one that is issued to all fire fighting crew member's. Pretty basic, but better than nothing.
Carry one, no matter where you go, I do and having one handy has benefits. I take a general first aid kit everywhere. Band aids, and various other bandages, over the counter meds, (Motrin, Benadryl, etc…). If I am fishing I make sure I have a hook removal kit, and or at least know how to make one. While hunting, I carry material for splitting. I always have a compass, matches, and knife and other survival gear, but knowing how to use it all makes the difference. So read up on what you need, and know how to use what you have before you get into a situation when you need your first aid and/or survival kits.
I always have one, I have found it to be worth the light weight it adds to the pack!
I have a fanny pack that I got from wal-mart. It's a outdoor gear one that holds two water bottles. I take it on all fishing trips and all hikes no matter how long or how short. In the fanny pack I have a first aid kit I bought from Bass pro shops for six dollars. It's small and doesn't way a lot and it was cheap. I see no reason to through it in there.
My wife gives me a hard time about the fanny pack, but it's a outdoors one, not a nerdy one.
I have 1 in my truck and carry a small "red" one on my pack while hunting/fishing. For one it "stands out" on my back in the bush if you know what I mean and in it I carry the bandaids, army shell dressings, ibuprofin, safety pins, tweezers, small splints among other things. I also carry a couple of tampons (external and internal) for blood absorbsion. The internal ones work fab for large puncture wounds from a fall onto a branch or something as they will expand and literally stop the bleeding.
i always have one in either my daypack or fanny pack. i have tensors eye treatment . gauzes. bullet wound treatment and everything included in a military issue first aid kit.
I carry a few bandaids, OR powder for stopping hemmorage, some of the single dose aleive because it lasts 12 hours, some chewable pepto, and a roll of athletic tape. This is much stronger than paper tape and in a pinch can be twisted into a pretty stout cord to tie stuff up like for a shelter. It can be used for holding splints and if you know what you are doing support sprains. Only weighs a few ounces but keeps me on the stand. Easier to kill something that way than at the camp.
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