The reason the MDNR does not want to recognize cougers is they would then have to manage for them. This would force them to set aside habitat and use their limited resources for an animal that is very sparce in this state. The DNR is stalling as long as they can.
This is the same DNR that says the wolf population is not affecting the deer numbers----both in Michigan and Wisconsin.----ask any hunters up north if they are seeing more or fewer deer in the past 5 years-----if they admit there is a cougar then they will have to tell people they don't eat deer either.
Great video. I'm sure there's a cougar or two in the state. Just like here in MN. Not too sure on the specifics of what they will have to do if they admit it though. Would like to know more about that. The back and forth bickering was hilarious!
buddy you are freeking funny the argument was hilarious i completely agree with you the dnr is just being stubborn they should just recognize there is a cougar
Glad you guys liked it! I came up with that bickering part right in the middle of filming that. Ya they (DNR) might have to do something if they admit there are cougars. I'd probly prop my feet up on my desk and shrug it off too. To me it obviously seemed stupid to argue about. I hope that came across in the video.
In 1998 both my Wife and myself saw a rather large cougar cross State Highway M-35 appx a half mile north of Palmer, Michigan. It was at about 20 feet directly in our headlights, no mistake there. It had been snowing and was just letting up, the snow was right to hold a track and we set an empty icecream bucket over two good tracks a ways off thr highway, and went on home (another 12 miles). We called Central Dispatch and asked if there was a CO (Conservation Officer) on duty and explained the situation. A short time later we were called back and told that the CO was not interested. A few days later we stopped at the Gwinn DNR office and spoke with a Wildlife Officer who "informed" us that we couldn't tell the difference between a cougar and a bobcat or were "somehow otherwise mistaken". At that point I lost a great deal of respect for our DNR. Just for the record we had lived in California for a couple years and saw our first and second cougar there, and yes we have seen several bobcats in the UP of Michigan. I have photo'ed one. I only wish we could of got a photo of the cougar so I could shove it where the sun don't shine when the next member of our DNR calls us liars. We are both retired in our 60's now, but still love the outdoors and hunting and fishing. Our State needs to save money by cutting State jobs, then let's save the Michigan State Police and cut a few more CO positions.
They've spotted cougars in Indiana, and had to kill one in Chicago...so, why wouldn't they be in Michigan?
It's just like when I spotted a bobcat in Northwestern Indiana and local DNR told me there were no bobcats in Northwestern Indiana, yet the State biologist in Bloomington told me there not only were bobcats in Northwestern Indiana, but that in recent years there's been over 19 sightings.
I think DNR guys just don't want a bunch of crazed, wannabe hunters out there roaming the fields with high-powerd rifles shooting at anything that moves...
Deepwoods I agree with you
DNR co s' especially Northern Wi and U P
in my 40 years experinace hunting in both areas not much more than cranky desk jockys,.. arrogant pr!ks too
But screw up in the most minute way ,. you woul dthink they just uncoverd a terrorist cell and your the flipping towel head leader ,..
Tell ya what ,.tell em look dam it I saw one,..
and it was too close for comfort and it wasnt a bobcat.
Then ask what happens when you shoot the damn thing when it threatens you or your property.
Last I checked dogs are property.
Bet that responce is different
The reason the MDNR does not want to recognize cougers is they would then have to manage for them. This would force them to set aside habitat and use their limited resources for an animal that is very sparce in this state. The DNR is stalling as long as they can.
This is the same DNR that says the wolf population is not affecting the deer numbers----both in Michigan and Wisconsin.----ask any hunters up north if they are seeing more or fewer deer in the past 5 years-----if they admit there is a cougar then they will have to tell people they don't eat deer either.
Great video. I'm sure there's a cougar or two in the state. Just like here in MN. Not too sure on the specifics of what they will have to do if they admit it though. Would like to know more about that. The back and forth bickering was hilarious!
buddy you are freeking funny the argument was hilarious i completely agree with you the dnr is just being stubborn they should just recognize there is a cougar
Glad you guys liked it! I came up with that bickering part right in the middle of filming that. Ya they (DNR) might have to do something if they admit there are cougars. I'd probly prop my feet up on my desk and shrug it off too. To me it obviously seemed stupid to argue about. I hope that came across in the video.
In 1998 both my Wife and myself saw a rather large cougar cross State Highway M-35 appx a half mile north of Palmer, Michigan. It was at about 20 feet directly in our headlights, no mistake there. It had been snowing and was just letting up, the snow was right to hold a track and we set an empty icecream bucket over two good tracks a ways off thr highway, and went on home (another 12 miles). We called Central Dispatch and asked if there was a CO (Conservation Officer) on duty and explained the situation. A short time later we were called back and told that the CO was not interested. A few days later we stopped at the Gwinn DNR office and spoke with a Wildlife Officer who "informed" us that we couldn't tell the difference between a cougar and a bobcat or were "somehow otherwise mistaken". At that point I lost a great deal of respect for our DNR. Just for the record we had lived in California for a couple years and saw our first and second cougar there, and yes we have seen several bobcats in the UP of Michigan. I have photo'ed one. I only wish we could of got a photo of the cougar so I could shove it where the sun don't shine when the next member of our DNR calls us liars. We are both retired in our 60's now, but still love the outdoors and hunting and fishing. Our State needs to save money by cutting State jobs, then let's save the Michigan State Police and cut a few more CO positions.
They've spotted cougars in Indiana, and had to kill one in Chicago...so, why wouldn't they be in Michigan?
It's just like when I spotted a bobcat in Northwestern Indiana and local DNR told me there were no bobcats in Northwestern Indiana, yet the State biologist in Bloomington told me there not only were bobcats in Northwestern Indiana, but that in recent years there's been over 19 sightings.
I think DNR guys just don't want a bunch of crazed, wannabe hunters out there roaming the fields with high-powerd rifles shooting at anything that moves...
Deepwoods I agree with you
DNR co s' especially Northern Wi and U P
in my 40 years experinace hunting in both areas not much more than cranky desk jockys,.. arrogant pr!ks too
But screw up in the most minute way ,. you woul dthink they just uncoverd a terrorist cell and your the flipping towel head leader ,..
Tell ya what ,.tell em look dam it I saw one,..
and it was too close for comfort and it wasnt a bobcat.
Then ask what happens when you shoot the damn thing when it threatens you or your property.
Last I checked dogs are property.
Bet that responce is different
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Enjoyed it.But know the cats can and will go undetected for long periods of time.I believe they are there.
The reason the MDNR does not want to recognize cougers is they would then have to manage for them. This would force them to set aside habitat and use their limited resources for an animal that is very sparce in this state. The DNR is stalling as long as they can.
This is the same DNR that says the wolf population is not affecting the deer numbers----both in Michigan and Wisconsin.----ask any hunters up north if they are seeing more or fewer deer in the past 5 years-----if they admit there is a cougar then they will have to tell people they don't eat deer either.
Great video. I'm sure there's a cougar or two in the state. Just like here in MN. Not too sure on the specifics of what they will have to do if they admit it though. Would like to know more about that. The back and forth bickering was hilarious!
buddy you are freeking funny the argument was hilarious i completely agree with you the dnr is just being stubborn they should just recognize there is a cougar
Glad you guys liked it! I came up with that bickering part right in the middle of filming that. Ya they (DNR) might have to do something if they admit there are cougars. I'd probly prop my feet up on my desk and shrug it off too. To me it obviously seemed stupid to argue about. I hope that came across in the video.
In 1998 both my Wife and myself saw a rather large cougar cross State Highway M-35 appx a half mile north of Palmer, Michigan. It was at about 20 feet directly in our headlights, no mistake there. It had been snowing and was just letting up, the snow was right to hold a track and we set an empty icecream bucket over two good tracks a ways off thr highway, and went on home (another 12 miles). We called Central Dispatch and asked if there was a CO (Conservation Officer) on duty and explained the situation. A short time later we were called back and told that the CO was not interested. A few days later we stopped at the Gwinn DNR office and spoke with a Wildlife Officer who "informed" us that we couldn't tell the difference between a cougar and a bobcat or were "somehow otherwise mistaken". At that point I lost a great deal of respect for our DNR. Just for the record we had lived in California for a couple years and saw our first and second cougar there, and yes we have seen several bobcats in the UP of Michigan. I have photo'ed one. I only wish we could of got a photo of the cougar so I could shove it where the sun don't shine when the next member of our DNR calls us liars. We are both retired in our 60's now, but still love the outdoors and hunting and fishing. Our State needs to save money by cutting State jobs, then let's save the Michigan State Police and cut a few more CO positions.
They've spotted cougars in Indiana, and had to kill one in Chicago...so, why wouldn't they be in Michigan?
It's just like when I spotted a bobcat in Northwestern Indiana and local DNR told me there were no bobcats in Northwestern Indiana, yet the State biologist in Bloomington told me there not only were bobcats in Northwestern Indiana, but that in recent years there's been over 19 sightings.
I think DNR guys just don't want a bunch of crazed, wannabe hunters out there roaming the fields with high-powerd rifles shooting at anything that moves...
Deepwoods I agree with you
DNR co s' especially Northern Wi and U P
in my 40 years experinace hunting in both areas not much more than cranky desk jockys,.. arrogant pr!ks too
But screw up in the most minute way ,. you woul dthink they just uncoverd a terrorist cell and your the flipping towel head leader ,..
Tell ya what ,.tell em look dam it I saw one,..
and it was too close for comfort and it wasnt a bobcat.
Then ask what happens when you shoot the damn thing when it threatens you or your property.
Last I checked dogs are property.
Bet that responce is different
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Enjoyed it.But know the cats can and will go undetected for long periods of time.I believe they are there.
The reason the MDNR does not want to recognize cougers is they would then have to manage for them. This would force them to set aside habitat and use their limited resources for an animal that is very sparce in this state. The DNR is stalling as long as they can.
This is the same DNR that says the wolf population is not affecting the deer numbers----both in Michigan and Wisconsin.----ask any hunters up north if they are seeing more or fewer deer in the past 5 years-----if they admit there is a cougar then they will have to tell people they don't eat deer either.
Great video. I'm sure there's a cougar or two in the state. Just like here in MN. Not too sure on the specifics of what they will have to do if they admit it though. Would like to know more about that. The back and forth bickering was hilarious!
buddy you are freeking funny the argument was hilarious i completely agree with you the dnr is just being stubborn they should just recognize there is a cougar
Glad you guys liked it! I came up with that bickering part right in the middle of filming that. Ya they (DNR) might have to do something if they admit there are cougars. I'd probly prop my feet up on my desk and shrug it off too. To me it obviously seemed stupid to argue about. I hope that came across in the video.
In 1998 both my Wife and myself saw a rather large cougar cross State Highway M-35 appx a half mile north of Palmer, Michigan. It was at about 20 feet directly in our headlights, no mistake there. It had been snowing and was just letting up, the snow was right to hold a track and we set an empty icecream bucket over two good tracks a ways off thr highway, and went on home (another 12 miles). We called Central Dispatch and asked if there was a CO (Conservation Officer) on duty and explained the situation. A short time later we were called back and told that the CO was not interested. A few days later we stopped at the Gwinn DNR office and spoke with a Wildlife Officer who "informed" us that we couldn't tell the difference between a cougar and a bobcat or were "somehow otherwise mistaken". At that point I lost a great deal of respect for our DNR. Just for the record we had lived in California for a couple years and saw our first and second cougar there, and yes we have seen several bobcats in the UP of Michigan. I have photo'ed one. I only wish we could of got a photo of the cougar so I could shove it where the sun don't shine when the next member of our DNR calls us liars. We are both retired in our 60's now, but still love the outdoors and hunting and fishing. Our State needs to save money by cutting State jobs, then let's save the Michigan State Police and cut a few more CO positions.
They've spotted cougars in Indiana, and had to kill one in Chicago...so, why wouldn't they be in Michigan?
It's just like when I spotted a bobcat in Northwestern Indiana and local DNR told me there were no bobcats in Northwestern Indiana, yet the State biologist in Bloomington told me there not only were bobcats in Northwestern Indiana, but that in recent years there's been over 19 sightings.
I think DNR guys just don't want a bunch of crazed, wannabe hunters out there roaming the fields with high-powerd rifles shooting at anything that moves...
Deepwoods I agree with you
DNR co s' especially Northern Wi and U P
in my 40 years experinace hunting in both areas not much more than cranky desk jockys,.. arrogant pr!ks too
But screw up in the most minute way ,. you woul dthink they just uncoverd a terrorist cell and your the flipping towel head leader ,..
Tell ya what ,.tell em look dam it I saw one,..
and it was too close for comfort and it wasnt a bobcat.
Then ask what happens when you shoot the damn thing when it threatens you or your property.
Last I checked dogs are property.
Bet that responce is different
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