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November 26, 2009
A Fascist Wonders Why Gun Owners Buy 1.3M More Firearms In October - 23
by John Haughey
According to AmmoLand.com, data released by the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) reported 1,233,982 NICS Checks in October 2009, a 4 percent increase from the 1,183,279 reported in October 2008. So far that is roughly 11,403,417 gun bought this year. The total is probably more as NICS background checks may cover the purchase of more than one gun at a time. "This latest jump in background checks show that Americans are solidly in-favor of keeping firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens," Ammoland reports in an no-byline article. "This clearly shows that the Obama Administration’s OK to proceed with a United Nations Arms Trade Treaty, that could be an end run on our 2nd amendment rights, is in direct opposition to his claim that he supports the 2nd amendment.That is like saying I support the right to free speech as long as it is censored. For more, go to: http://www.ammoland.com/2009/11/04/gun-owners-buy-1300000-guns-in-opposition-to-obama-arms-trade-treaty/ Of course, Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence is pretty much saying just that -- I support the right to free speech as long as it is censored -- in his bizarre blather, What is the 'Message' Behind Increased Gun Sales?, published by huffingtonpost.com on Nov. 5. How dangerously deluded is Horwitz? He justifies abrogating your Constitutional rights for all Americans because of what one or two deranged loons might do. He asks three strange questions. His answers are belied by the questions themselves: -- "Do you believe that the Second Amendment provides individuals with a right to shoot and kill government officials when they deem our government has become 'tyrannical'? -- "If one or two individuals who believe our government is 'tyrannical' are not enough, how many individuals does it take to make political violence against our government legitimate? -- Finally, how would the NRA define government 'tyranny'? Does having to live with health care reform that one disagrees with constitute being 'attacked by politicians'?" For more, go to: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-horwitz/what-is-the-message-behin_b_347256.html |
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these writers need to quit useing the words fascist,socialist,refering to this administration because they dont know a thing about the history of this country!because trying to incite hate is just wrong.
Patrick your judement is clouded by your peers I would imagine. But of corse Im here to help open your mind a little. OK correct me if Im wrong patrick but um you must know that a lawyer who was born in Kenya knew his schooling would help teach him how to slip threw a loop whole then cover his own tracks enuff to fool uneducated americans to vote for him. then when he gets into office he dont listen to the people he sends this nation for a loop by taking over banking housing transportation and soon to be heath care and Im sure you know this is the same way the nazi party started the take over of germany. So if you cant call that tyranny patrick then like i said your judement is clouded or your part of the propaganda its hard to tell but time always brings the truth with it.
The 2nd amendment was written to guarantee the right to remove a tyrannical government and not to allow hunting.
Horwitz is of a tyrannical mind and he and his ilk should be VERY concerned. The recent massive purchase of arms and ammunition is to prepare to remove these tyrants, if necessary. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
the reveloution was not reveloutionary the civil war was not civil and you cant pledge to a flag thats soaked in the blood of innocent women and children.because if the constitution is to remove a tyrannical government then why were whole tribes of indians slautered and the rest put in consentration camps.ruck and drop and the rest you have nothing to be pissed about.its the american indians african americans and all of the other ethnic groups are the ones that should be pissed!we have opressed these people under the guise of the constitution!
Out of the mouths of MORONS !
PATRICK IT IS 2009 ! WAKE UP AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM !
Or if you like, maybe a move to a MORE socilist country is what you want. I hear CHINA is nice !
big o and maby your just ignorant!
Whoa patrick time to go get a blues clue. The blood that runs threw me is 87% native my kids 93 % so i guess your talking about me. But I dont want none of your hand outs I dont want no one to feel sorry me what i do want is my right to feed my family and protect them from evil ways so patrick please dont bring us up like anyone on here had anything to do with any of that its spilled milk and you know what they say. We need to make a good path forward becareful dont cover our tracks we will allways need to remember where we came from.
OH yeah and they got the idea of the constatution from the mowhawks thank you very much. It was the politcal freaks who messed evreything up from that point.
Whoa patrick time to go get a blues clue. The blood that runs threw me is 87% native my kids 93 % so i guess your talking about me. But I dont want none of your hand outs I dont want no one to feel sorry me what i do want is my right to feed my family and protect them from evil ways so patrick please dont bring us up like anyone on here had anything to do with any of that its spilled milk and you know what they say. We need to make a good path forward becareful dont cover our tracks we will allways need to remember where we came from.
The Constitution was the product of the Enlightenment and English history and not the Iroquois Confederacy. Patrick88, if you feel SO oppressed then allow me to pay for a one-way airfare to wherever you'd be happy. The only proviso is that you have to STAY. Every nation has made mistakes, as do individuals. Your ilk seem to ignore the fact that our system has been self-adjusting. If we're so disagreeable to you then please leave us.
Ruck I would have to say your view of history is brainwashed also you belive what makes you feel good about yourself but thats the nice thing about freedom. Maybee where all wrong in our views but one things for shure the world loves watching us as Americans stumble they are waiting for us to weaken then make there move. When you look at the bigger picture you will see that there is a world of hate out there focused on us there over seas licking there chops right now. Hope you know what your wishing for because it going to be all about suffering and no one wins.
i made my point we just need to quit this bickering and agree we need to fight against gun control and for our hunting rights!
Same cycle every year,last year they blamed it on Obama winning the election.No need to send any money any where.
Next year the days will get shorter and people will watch the news see more crime,the hunter or one new to it will look to the season and the whole thing will start over again.
Then some paranoid conspirator will blame you or I for the problems in America.
I find it incredible that my advocacy of Liberty and Freedom based upon the founding of this country should so confuse and confound some. I'd recommend that you read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Federalist Papers so that you'll understand why we are here as a Nation. Abrasive for Liberty and Freedom, that's me.
Look, I think we all know that there is a 50/50 chance that this country is going to be pushed into some kind of revolution. Whether it is peaceful or a French Revolution time will tell. The Obama administration is intent on making government the number one administrator of our lives, money and possessions. And sooner or later Obama must go after the guns. It is absolutely necessary to disarm the populace you wish to control. That's why we are hoarding weapons--so when that happens we can also arm our friends and families who may not yet see what is happening.
look obama is trying to clean up what the bush administration destroyed.he does not have time to take on gun control.but if you like giving your hard earnd money to big oil big insurance big drug companies and feeding the rich im sure in a few years youll get your wish!
a unpopular veiw.but it starts with capitalism and ends in terrorism.The bush administration veiwed it as plus for the GNP and a bonus to destablize any unpopular goverments.All good ,but the theocrats are the buyers these days and the shaky goverment they wish to take over[also buyers]may just have to be saved by American lives.I believe the AK-47 is the most copied design in the world,its simple design allows it to be made in back alleys and mountain tops.If we as a people care enough for our rights why are we allowing the tools, material and all the knowllege to use them ,to be shipped overseas.If you say there's to be a revolution, then how would you arm them?We can't have a democracy without capitolism but capitolism corrupts and when you allow it to rule democracy you can loose your rights or your enviroment.
Patrick88,
You need to realize that you are posting on a forum populated by adults who have a lot of knowledge. You are not posting on Newsvine, the Huffington Post, or Move on.org. We are not ruled by emotion, we are ruled by fact and experience. The fact is, if you look at what Pres. Obama and his democrats are up to, you will see why the adults are upset. People use the term Socialist, because they know that it is what the progressive wing of the democratic is. The adults use the term fascist, because if you took your thumb out of your mouth and did some research you would practically see a picture of Obama. Adults do not use the terms that offend you out of hate, we actually pitty those who are as misinformed as you.
You need a little civics/government class lesson, perhaps you will get it in your senior year of high school. The BS about having to recover from 8 years of Bush's policies is just that...BS. Most of the damage was done after 2006 when the dems got control of the legislative branch of government. By the way, Congress is at fault for a lot. The President can do nothing without the consent of the legislative branch of government! Your simplistic views are not current either. Obama's lap dog Emanuel is attacking the second amendment as we speak. Obama wants to sign away our sovreignty to the loons of the UN who are suffering from delusions of grandeur, thinking they can rule us if they can get their hands on out guns via treaty. There is much you need to learn grasshopper, hopefully it will not be at the end of a gun carried by a UN soldier!
look remsdad i dont want to debate history government or knowledge,i dont follow any one blindly that includes the rigth left and nra.we want the same thing less gun control. i understand that most of the guys on here are conservative in there thinking i just dont put up with the left bashing.and if you were an adult you would not be name calling someone thats on your side!
Patrick88
You don't need a civic lesson ,you just beware of revisionist history class.Around here facts and experience are ruled by emotion.Don't go right ,don't go left just keep it in the middle,around election time keep your money in your pocket.Nobody needs to make a donation for you ,you can do it yourself.No president can sign our constitutional rights away with a treety or UN resilution.Don't stop looking for it. You might want to keep your own journal and do your own research.Everything you hear around here is based on emotion.
Bordetella:
Patrick88 is one of those whose attitude is "Don't confuse me with the facts, I know what I know."
bordetella good comment i agree!
ruck i dont want to argue with you i agree with some of your comments but not all.we can disagree its part of the forum!
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Patrick88
You don't need a civic lesson ,you just beware of revisionist history class.Around here facts and experience are ruled by emotion.Don't go right ,don't go left just keep it in the middle,around election time keep your money in your pocket.Nobody needs to make a donation for you ,you can do it yourself.No president can sign our constitutional rights away with a treety or UN resilution.Don't stop looking for it. You might want to keep your own journal and do your own research.Everything you hear around here is based on emotion.
Ruck I would have to say your view of history is brainwashed also you belive what makes you feel good about yourself but thats the nice thing about freedom. Maybee where all wrong in our views but one things for shure the world loves watching us as Americans stumble they are waiting for us to weaken then make there move. When you look at the bigger picture you will see that there is a world of hate out there focused on us there over seas licking there chops right now. Hope you know what your wishing for because it going to be all about suffering and no one wins.
Same cycle every year,last year they blamed it on Obama winning the election.No need to send any money any where.
Next year the days will get shorter and people will watch the news see more crime,the hunter or one new to it will look to the season and the whole thing will start over again.
Then some paranoid conspirator will blame you or I for the problems in America.
Look, I think we all know that there is a 50/50 chance that this country is going to be pushed into some kind of revolution. Whether it is peaceful or a French Revolution time will tell. The Obama administration is intent on making government the number one administrator of our lives, money and possessions. And sooner or later Obama must go after the guns. It is absolutely necessary to disarm the populace you wish to control. That's why we are hoarding weapons--so when that happens we can also arm our friends and families who may not yet see what is happening.
a unpopular veiw.but it starts with capitalism and ends in terrorism.The bush administration veiwed it as plus for the GNP and a bonus to destablize any unpopular goverments.All good ,but the theocrats are the buyers these days and the shaky goverment they wish to take over[also buyers]may just have to be saved by American lives.I believe the AK-47 is the most copied design in the world,its simple design allows it to be made in back alleys and mountain tops.If we as a people care enough for our rights why are we allowing the tools, material and all the knowllege to use them ,to be shipped overseas.If you say there's to be a revolution, then how would you arm them?We can't have a democracy without capitolism but capitolism corrupts and when you allow it to rule democracy you can loose your rights or your enviroment.
Whoa patrick time to go get a blues clue. The blood that runs threw me is 87% native my kids 93 % so i guess your talking about me. But I dont want none of your hand outs I dont want no one to feel sorry me what i do want is my right to feed my family and protect them from evil ways so patrick please dont bring us up like anyone on here had anything to do with any of that its spilled milk and you know what they say. We need to make a good path forward becareful dont cover our tracks we will allways need to remember where we came from.
OH yeah and they got the idea of the constatution from the mowhawks thank you very much. It was the politcal freaks who messed evreything up from that point.
I find it incredible that my advocacy of Liberty and Freedom based upon the founding of this country should so confuse and confound some. I'd recommend that you read the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Federalist Papers so that you'll understand why we are here as a Nation. Abrasive for Liberty and Freedom, that's me.
The 2nd amendment was written to guarantee the right to remove a tyrannical government and not to allow hunting.
Horwitz is of a tyrannical mind and he and his ilk should be VERY concerned. The recent massive purchase of arms and ammunition is to prepare to remove these tyrants, if necessary. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Out of the mouths of MORONS !
PATRICK IT IS 2009 ! WAKE UP AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM !
Or if you like, maybe a move to a MORE socilist country is what you want. I hear CHINA is nice !
Whoa patrick time to go get a blues clue. The blood that runs threw me is 87% native my kids 93 % so i guess your talking about me. But I dont want none of your hand outs I dont want no one to feel sorry me what i do want is my right to feed my family and protect them from evil ways so patrick please dont bring us up like anyone on here had anything to do with any of that its spilled milk and you know what they say. We need to make a good path forward becareful dont cover our tracks we will allways need to remember where we came from.
i made my point we just need to quit this bickering and agree we need to fight against gun control and for our hunting rights!
look remsdad i dont want to debate history government or knowledge,i dont follow any one blindly that includes the rigth left and nra.we want the same thing less gun control. i understand that most of the guys on here are conservative in there thinking i just dont put up with the left bashing.and if you were an adult you would not be name calling someone thats on your side!
bordetella good comment i agree!
ruck i dont want to argue with you i agree with some of your comments but not all.we can disagree its part of the forum!
these writers need to quit useing the words fascist,socialist,refering to this administration because they dont know a thing about the history of this country!because trying to incite hate is just wrong.
Patrick your judement is clouded by your peers I would imagine. But of corse Im here to help open your mind a little. OK correct me if Im wrong patrick but um you must know that a lawyer who was born in Kenya knew his schooling would help teach him how to slip threw a loop whole then cover his own tracks enuff to fool uneducated americans to vote for him. then when he gets into office he dont listen to the people he sends this nation for a loop by taking over banking housing transportation and soon to be heath care and Im sure you know this is the same way the nazi party started the take over of germany. So if you cant call that tyranny patrick then like i said your judement is clouded or your part of the propaganda its hard to tell but time always brings the truth with it.
look obama is trying to clean up what the bush administration destroyed.he does not have time to take on gun control.but if you like giving your hard earnd money to big oil big insurance big drug companies and feeding the rich im sure in a few years youll get your wish!
Patrick88,
You need to realize that you are posting on a forum populated by adults who have a lot of knowledge. You are not posting on Newsvine, the Huffington Post, or Move on.org. We are not ruled by emotion, we are ruled by fact and experience. The fact is, if you look at what Pres. Obama and his democrats are up to, you will see why the adults are upset. People use the term Socialist, because they know that it is what the progressive wing of the democratic is. The adults use the term fascist, because if you took your thumb out of your mouth and did some research you would practically see a picture of Obama. Adults do not use the terms that offend you out of hate, we actually pitty those who are as misinformed as you.
You need a little civics/government class lesson, perhaps you will get it in your senior year of high school. The BS about having to recover from 8 years of Bush's policies is just that...BS. Most of the damage was done after 2006 when the dems got control of the legislative branch of government. By the way, Congress is at fault for a lot. The President can do nothing without the consent of the legislative branch of government! Your simplistic views are not current either. Obama's lap dog Emanuel is attacking the second amendment as we speak. Obama wants to sign away our sovreignty to the loons of the UN who are suffering from delusions of grandeur, thinking they can rule us if they can get their hands on out guns via treaty. There is much you need to learn grasshopper, hopefully it will not be at the end of a gun carried by a UN soldier!
Bordetella:
Patrick88 is one of those whose attitude is "Don't confuse me with the facts, I know what I know."
the reveloution was not reveloutionary the civil war was not civil and you cant pledge to a flag thats soaked in the blood of innocent women and children.because if the constitution is to remove a tyrannical government then why were whole tribes of indians slautered and the rest put in consentration camps.ruck and drop and the rest you have nothing to be pissed about.its the american indians african americans and all of the other ethnic groups are the ones that should be pissed!we have opressed these people under the guise of the constitution!
The Constitution was the product of the Enlightenment and English history and not the Iroquois Confederacy. Patrick88, if you feel SO oppressed then allow me to pay for a one-way airfare to wherever you'd be happy. The only proviso is that you have to STAY. Every nation has made mistakes, as do individuals. Your ilk seem to ignore the fact that our system has been self-adjusting. If we're so disagreeable to you then please leave us.
big o and maby your just ignorant!
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