A detective in East Palo Alto, Calif., is under fire after he allegedly encouraged fellow police officers in Facebook postings to shoot gun advocates who carry unloaded weapons in plain view as a political statement.
Detective Rod Tuason, apparently in response to a comment about open carry advocates with visible weapons sipping coffee at cafes in the San Francisco Bay area, suggested officers challenge the gun owners.
"Sounds like you had someone practicing their 2nd amendment rights last night!" Tuason wrote. "Should've pulled the AR out and prone them all out! And if one of them makes a furtive movement ... 2 weeks off!!!"
Tuason ridiculed how law-abiding gun owners can't get concealed carry permits. "Haha that's when you attend one of their meetings and laugh at them cuz they can only dream to have a ccw..." he wrote.
Unfortunately for Tuason, blogger and lawyer Kevin Thomason — a Second Amendment advocate — read his remarks, posted a screen grab of the thread and a link to Tuason's Facebook page.
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Any officer of the law and elected politician who wants to get rid of citizens rights and shoot people for exercising their rights should lose their jobs and be put on trial. These people have become consumed by their desire of power and want to change our government and laws to accommodate their own beliefs. It seems like more politicians aren't listening to the people of this nation and its going to cause several issues within this great nation
DEFINATLY and "O"/Pelosi suporter !
This is just another example of why my opinion of policemen as a whole continues to diminish as I get older. There a lot of good cops out there, and I know some of them personally, but there are also a lot of hot-dogs, egotists, power trippers and racists. I can readily understand how constant contact with criminals can warp one's viewpoint, but in too many cases, the police tend to treat the general public as a bunch of would be perps who should be completely subservient to the boys in the P.D.
Captain, you are right on the money about everyone needing to protect themselves. That's the reason there's a pistol in my pocket as I sit here at the computer at my home. I don't fancy myself as some sort of gunslinger, but if I ever need this gun, I'll probably need it RIGHT NOW and not have time to go the gun safe to get it. Thanks to all of you for helping stand up for our second amendment rights and if you don't belong to the NRA, please join.
Very good comments johnnie.
Makes me glad I have my ccp.
I hope they kick him off the force
Well I Think He should be treated like a Terrorist also. If it were anyone else making statements like that on social networks,they would be charged with felonies and sent to jail. They should take his guns,right to vote,and give him a nice vacation in the slammer.
I Choose to call them police,I have had soe bad experiences with some of the smartazz one who though they created the world.But have meet some decent ones at least for a short period of time.Have never seen any property recovered from the burgularies in the town i live in?No Arrest sure they get a few drunks off the road and have a drug dog and swat team with a military vehicle and plenty of speed traps.But they can't catch a thief? I come a knats butt from shooting a young man trying to steal a boat i had tied up in the creek and glad i didn't ,they did catch him but didn't prosecute him.
The detective needs to be fired and not be allowed to even touch a firearm.
absolutely ridiculous
from dneaster3
"he expressed a personal opinion..... because it's different than yours he should lose his job, give it to a "non communist", forfeit his constitutional rights...... Silly me, I thought this was a chance for education on the 2nd Amendment!"
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Detective Rod Tuason personal opinion was to kill innocent people. Yes, his opinion is quite different than mine; I don't condone killing innocent people. And yes he should loose his job and loose his 2nd Amendment rights. Why? Because he thinks it is okay to go around killing innocent people and that is an unstable mental condition.
Detective Rod Tuason is on a power trip and must think he is better than law-abiding citizens. Detective Rod Tuason finds it quite amusing on how law-abiding gun owners can't get concealed carry permits and believes he should attend there meetings and laugh at them on dreaming of getting a CCW. Evidently the only way Detective Rod Tuason could legally obtain a pistol was to join a police department.
I quess we will have to wait and see if Detective Rod Tuason gets fired and looses his firearm rights. One other thing we will wait on to see, if he carries out his threats to kill innocent people. By than it will be too late to take any preventive action against Detective Rod Tuason.
Regarding the sentiments of Officer Tuason, the one thing I am reminded of is the deal that went down in Washington DC (I can't remember how many years ago) where there were two or three women who were attacked by two to four men, beaten and raped repeatedly. They called 911 several times and police officers never responded. They did escape with their lives, but the horror of they went through will never leave them. Now, as I recall, the police in that case stated it was "not their duty to protect private citizens in cases like this, it was their duty to catch bad guys and put them away." Now, what this told me was that the police in Washington DC (a place where until recently you couldn't even OWN a gun!) felt their prime duty was chasing speeders, writing tickets, etc. Protecting people from vile and violent crime wasn't "their responsibility." Now, if other police around the country think that way, who is left to protect the citizen? The citizen, with the 2nd Amendment and a CCW. Tuason sounds to me like the cops in Washington DC. And, I imagine there are alot more like him. I'll take care of myself, by myself. They are going to arive after the damage is done anyway, and then try to catch the perps. Just the way I see it. Yeah, the guy should have failed his mental eval and at this point should not be allowed on the force or to own or carry guns.
did someone forget to give this guy his mental evaluation hes not the only one aloud to carry a gun.where do these idiots come from does he really want to start a war with gun owners he would lose!
dropjhook.com: My negativity is duly noted. I'll try to find more positive comments to make in the future.
bo: Why yes I am also bothered by Rush's exclusion from investment based on political motivations, though in both cases I understand the vehemenont reactions of the opposition.
The point I was trying to make is that instead of calling for his/her head each time an anti-hunter or anti-gun person expresses an opinion, it would be better to use the moment to teach anyone listening the merits of proper gun ownership and usage. After all, the purpose of open carry demonstration is not to make non-gun people mad, it is to win over those whose opinions are not yet solidified against us.
I'm as pro-gun as the next guy, but you do, in fact, catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
Detective Rod Tuason must be fired immediately and put on trial for making a terrorist threat. Just as anyone who calls in a bomb threat as a joke; they are arrested for making terrorist threats, charged with a felony, lose their jobs and their right to own a firearm.
dneaster3 is right this is a teaching moment. Lets get to teaching power drunk government agents we will not tolerate anti freedom behavior any longer.
later,
charlie
It is one thing for one of us to joke about that, shooting someone, for a sworn law enforcement officer to do so is disturbing to say the least. As stated above he has significant issues that cause me concern for the public safety when I learn he has access to weapons.
dneaster3, were you as adamant about people like Rush being given their Constitutional right when he was characterized as a racist and misquoted to get there, so he was denied part-ownership of a football team. Or Jimmy the Greek making his comment which was a true statement.
We must be vigilant about the people who are sworn to enforce the law. When they violate the precepts they are sworn to uphold, our society is more at risk than most people are aware.
We are living in a state of flux, most Americans do not understand what the Constitution means and are willing to accept whatever the libs say it means.
This speech was irresponsible and under the guidelines of his profession he violated any ethics code they have. He thought the act of shooting people was funny. He needs to lose any certification for law enforcement and not be allowed a CCW permit. Just my two cents.
It surprises me that so many LEOs seem to be anti second amendment. This guy's comments were over the top, but I've talked to a few officers who think citizens shouldn't be allowed to carry. I don't really understand it but it seems like they have an "us against the world" attitude.
Plenty of other LEOs agree that armed law abiding citizens deter crime.
dneaster3, from your 19 comments its hard for you to say anything good so I'll take your comment & laugh.
thumbs up djh
So wait, he expressed a personal opinion--albeit tastelessly--and because it's different than yours he should lose his job, give it to a "non communist", forfeit his constitutional rights, and go on a diet? Next stop: he's a witch!!
Silly me, I thought this was a chance for education on the 2nd Amendment!
Let's see. He's probably some fat oaf who can't run across the room without wheezing and he's going to threaten law-abiding firearms owners? Regardless,sounds like this guy is drunk with the little power that his badge creates in his head. Hey bozo, how about some sensitivity training?
Detective Rod Tuason needs to be removed from the police force, because he is a lunatic. He is also giving good police a bad name. Also, Detective Rod Tuason should be stripped of any firearms and void of any firearm ownership, because in his eyes it is okay to shoot people just because they are practicing a Constitutional right. Will Detective Rod Tuason want to shoot somebody just because they are practicing Freedom of Speech?
Another thing I find disturbing and mentally unstable about Detective Rod Tuason is he is encouraging other police officers to kill 2nd Amendment supporters who carry unloaded weapons. Can you believe that, an unloaded firearm? What a lunatic Detective Rod Tuason is.
It is funny how people in authority who have guns and are able to protect themselves think that others should not have the same opportunity.
Cap'n, I completely agree and practice. I think most people do, we're just not the vocal minority. It's a difficult position soemtimes. Frankly, I don't want to advertise. At the same time, however, I feel the need to speak up for my rights from time to time and make an attempt to educate those I know who have no exposure to the issue.
Jcarlin, I can agree with what you are saying. It could be that the officer just made a blatantly stupid remark in a public forum.
I am of the opinion that we would be much better off as a society if more citizens would protect themselves instead of relying on the police in every situation.
It is the right (and I would argue duty) of every free person to defend themselves. This is a basic foundation of our society that many do not acknowledge.
Well the the police are only minutes away when seconds count!
These Cali people are a diffrent sub species of America obviously tell the truth most these people probly migrated here only in the past 60 years from evreywhere. Imagaine the % of these people that come from communist backrounds & they have been a factor in our voting system voting for government not freedoms to the point its like the state is not even part of America wait it minute there governer wasn't even born here & he runs a STATE wow!!!
I completely agree, however, that the police force is reactive, not proactive. That's how we like it. Few of us wants a police force that has the powers to actually watch every individual all the time in order to ensure thier safety. That's a scary amount of power. I'd be happy if we'd just do a better job of keeping violent offenders in jail once they've proven who they are, but that's not the police's fault.
Don't get me wrong Captain. A guy who wants to risk a bloodbath in a situation where people are exercising a legal right has no business on the police force. This is particularly true when his job is to enforce law, not make a statement about his beliefs. Everyone has a political view, but the law is the law. Now, there's always the chance it was an ill thought out, but joking comment made. Another hazard of social networking sites or blogs like this one is that what you say is out there for all to use. Makes me wonder if I should change my screen name sometimes.
Jcarlin, I realize that you cannot judge the entire force based off of the stupidity of one individual.
However, this does nothing for my assessment of police officers.
I have never had a police officer around when I needed one, and at best one has responded 30 minutes after a situation played out. Furthermore, out of the various thefts/destruction of property cases I have reported, none have been resolved.
I have learned not to count on the police. In fact, I try to avoid any interaction with them if at all possible. Even the good officers have to deal with too much beuracracy to effect much law enforcement.
There's one in every organization, group, or family. You can't judge the entire force based on one guy.
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Jcarlin, I realize that you cannot judge the entire force based off of the stupidity of one individual.
However, this does nothing for my assessment of police officers.
I have never had a police officer around when I needed one, and at best one has responded 30 minutes after a situation played out. Furthermore, out of the various thefts/destruction of property cases I have reported, none have been resolved.
I have learned not to count on the police. In fact, I try to avoid any interaction with them if at all possible. Even the good officers have to deal with too much beuracracy to effect much law enforcement.
Detective Rod Tuason needs to be removed from the police force, because he is a lunatic. He is also giving good police a bad name. Also, Detective Rod Tuason should be stripped of any firearms and void of any firearm ownership, because in his eyes it is okay to shoot people just because they are practicing a Constitutional right. Will Detective Rod Tuason want to shoot somebody just because they are practicing Freedom of Speech?
Another thing I find disturbing and mentally unstable about Detective Rod Tuason is he is encouraging other police officers to kill 2nd Amendment supporters who carry unloaded weapons. Can you believe that, an unloaded firearm? What a lunatic Detective Rod Tuason is.
It is funny how people in authority who have guns and are able to protect themselves think that others should not have the same opportunity.
These Cali people are a diffrent sub species of America obviously tell the truth most these people probly migrated here only in the past 60 years from evreywhere. Imagaine the % of these people that come from communist backrounds & they have been a factor in our voting system voting for government not freedoms to the point its like the state is not even part of America wait it minute there governer wasn't even born here & he runs a STATE wow!!!
dneaster3, from your 19 comments its hard for you to say anything good so I'll take your comment & laugh.
It is one thing for one of us to joke about that, shooting someone, for a sworn law enforcement officer to do so is disturbing to say the least. As stated above he has significant issues that cause me concern for the public safety when I learn he has access to weapons.
dneaster3, were you as adamant about people like Rush being given their Constitutional right when he was characterized as a racist and misquoted to get there, so he was denied part-ownership of a football team. Or Jimmy the Greek making his comment which was a true statement.
We must be vigilant about the people who are sworn to enforce the law. When they violate the precepts they are sworn to uphold, our society is more at risk than most people are aware.
We are living in a state of flux, most Americans do not understand what the Constitution means and are willing to accept whatever the libs say it means.
This speech was irresponsible and under the guidelines of his profession he violated any ethics code they have. He thought the act of shooting people was funny. He needs to lose any certification for law enforcement and not be allowed a CCW permit. Just my two cents.
There's one in every organization, group, or family. You can't judge the entire force based on one guy.
Well the the police are only minutes away when seconds count!
Jcarlin, I can agree with what you are saying. It could be that the officer just made a blatantly stupid remark in a public forum.
I am of the opinion that we would be much better off as a society if more citizens would protect themselves instead of relying on the police in every situation.
It is the right (and I would argue duty) of every free person to defend themselves. This is a basic foundation of our society that many do not acknowledge.
Let's see. He's probably some fat oaf who can't run across the room without wheezing and he's going to threaten law-abiding firearms owners? Regardless,sounds like this guy is drunk with the little power that his badge creates in his head. Hey bozo, how about some sensitivity training?
Detective Rod Tuason must be fired immediately and put on trial for making a terrorist threat. Just as anyone who calls in a bomb threat as a joke; they are arrested for making terrorist threats, charged with a felony, lose their jobs and their right to own a firearm.
dneaster3 is right this is a teaching moment. Lets get to teaching power drunk government agents we will not tolerate anti freedom behavior any longer.
later,
charlie
Well I Think He should be treated like a Terrorist also. If it were anyone else making statements like that on social networks,they would be charged with felonies and sent to jail. They should take his guns,right to vote,and give him a nice vacation in the slammer.
Cap'n, I completely agree and practice. I think most people do, we're just not the vocal minority. It's a difficult position soemtimes. Frankly, I don't want to advertise. At the same time, however, I feel the need to speak up for my rights from time to time and make an attempt to educate those I know who have no exposure to the issue.
I Choose to call them police,I have had soe bad experiences with some of the smartazz one who though they created the world.But have meet some decent ones at least for a short period of time.Have never seen any property recovered from the burgularies in the town i live in?No Arrest sure they get a few drunks off the road and have a drug dog and swat team with a military vehicle and plenty of speed traps.But they can't catch a thief? I come a knats butt from shooting a young man trying to steal a boat i had tied up in the creek and glad i didn't ,they did catch him but didn't prosecute him.
The detective needs to be fired and not be allowed to even touch a firearm.
I hope they kick him off the force
Very good comments johnnie.
Makes me glad I have my ccp.
This is just another example of why my opinion of policemen as a whole continues to diminish as I get older. There a lot of good cops out there, and I know some of them personally, but there are also a lot of hot-dogs, egotists, power trippers and racists. I can readily understand how constant contact with criminals can warp one's viewpoint, but in too many cases, the police tend to treat the general public as a bunch of would be perps who should be completely subservient to the boys in the P.D.
Captain, you are right on the money about everyone needing to protect themselves. That's the reason there's a pistol in my pocket as I sit here at the computer at my home. I don't fancy myself as some sort of gunslinger, but if I ever need this gun, I'll probably need it RIGHT NOW and not have time to go the gun safe to get it. Thanks to all of you for helping stand up for our second amendment rights and if you don't belong to the NRA, please join.
Don't get me wrong Captain. A guy who wants to risk a bloodbath in a situation where people are exercising a legal right has no business on the police force. This is particularly true when his job is to enforce law, not make a statement about his beliefs. Everyone has a political view, but the law is the law. Now, there's always the chance it was an ill thought out, but joking comment made. Another hazard of social networking sites or blogs like this one is that what you say is out there for all to use. Makes me wonder if I should change my screen name sometimes.
thumbs up djh
It surprises me that so many LEOs seem to be anti second amendment. This guy's comments were over the top, but I've talked to a few officers who think citizens shouldn't be allowed to carry. I don't really understand it but it seems like they have an "us against the world" attitude.
Plenty of other LEOs agree that armed law abiding citizens deter crime.
Regarding the sentiments of Officer Tuason, the one thing I am reminded of is the deal that went down in Washington DC (I can't remember how many years ago) where there were two or three women who were attacked by two to four men, beaten and raped repeatedly. They called 911 several times and police officers never responded. They did escape with their lives, but the horror of they went through will never leave them. Now, as I recall, the police in that case stated it was "not their duty to protect private citizens in cases like this, it was their duty to catch bad guys and put them away." Now, what this told me was that the police in Washington DC (a place where until recently you couldn't even OWN a gun!) felt their prime duty was chasing speeders, writing tickets, etc. Protecting people from vile and violent crime wasn't "their responsibility." Now, if other police around the country think that way, who is left to protect the citizen? The citizen, with the 2nd Amendment and a CCW. Tuason sounds to me like the cops in Washington DC. And, I imagine there are alot more like him. I'll take care of myself, by myself. They are going to arive after the damage is done anyway, and then try to catch the perps. Just the way I see it. Yeah, the guy should have failed his mental eval and at this point should not be allowed on the force or to own or carry guns.
from dneaster3
"he expressed a personal opinion..... because it's different than yours he should lose his job, give it to a "non communist", forfeit his constitutional rights...... Silly me, I thought this was a chance for education on the 2nd Amendment!"
----------------------------------------------------
Detective Rod Tuason personal opinion was to kill innocent people. Yes, his opinion is quite different than mine; I don't condone killing innocent people. And yes he should loose his job and loose his 2nd Amendment rights. Why? Because he thinks it is okay to go around killing innocent people and that is an unstable mental condition.
Detective Rod Tuason is on a power trip and must think he is better than law-abiding citizens. Detective Rod Tuason finds it quite amusing on how law-abiding gun owners can't get concealed carry permits and believes he should attend there meetings and laugh at them on dreaming of getting a CCW. Evidently the only way Detective Rod Tuason could legally obtain a pistol was to join a police department.
I quess we will have to wait and see if Detective Rod Tuason gets fired and looses his firearm rights. One other thing we will wait on to see, if he carries out his threats to kill innocent people. By than it will be too late to take any preventive action against Detective Rod Tuason.
absolutely ridiculous
Any officer of the law and elected politician who wants to get rid of citizens rights and shoot people for exercising their rights should lose their jobs and be put on trial. These people have become consumed by their desire of power and want to change our government and laws to accommodate their own beliefs. It seems like more politicians aren't listening to the people of this nation and its going to cause several issues within this great nation
I completely agree, however, that the police force is reactive, not proactive. That's how we like it. Few of us wants a police force that has the powers to actually watch every individual all the time in order to ensure thier safety. That's a scary amount of power. I'd be happy if we'd just do a better job of keeping violent offenders in jail once they've proven who they are, but that's not the police's fault.
did someone forget to give this guy his mental evaluation hes not the only one aloud to carry a gun.where do these idiots come from does he really want to start a war with gun owners he would lose!
DEFINATLY and "O"/Pelosi suporter !
dropjhook.com: My negativity is duly noted. I'll try to find more positive comments to make in the future.
bo: Why yes I am also bothered by Rush's exclusion from investment based on political motivations, though in both cases I understand the vehemenont reactions of the opposition.
The point I was trying to make is that instead of calling for his/her head each time an anti-hunter or anti-gun person expresses an opinion, it would be better to use the moment to teach anyone listening the merits of proper gun ownership and usage. After all, the purpose of open carry demonstration is not to make non-gun people mad, it is to win over those whose opinions are not yet solidified against us.
I'm as pro-gun as the next guy, but you do, in fact, catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
So wait, he expressed a personal opinion--albeit tastelessly--and because it's different than yours he should lose his job, give it to a "non communist", forfeit his constitutional rights, and go on a diet? Next stop: he's a witch!!
Silly me, I thought this was a chance for education on the 2nd Amendment!
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