The Utah-based American Lands Council is one of the main groups leading initiatives to transfer America’s public lands to individual states. But it’s unclear which lands the council actually wants. Last year the group’s CEO, Jennifer Fielder, wrote an op-ed stating she’s focused on: “improving conditions on ordinary public lands that are supposed to be managed for multiple uses, but increasingly aren’t.” But on its website, the ALC features a map titled “Unlock Our Lands!” that highlights in red the very places it claims not to be targeting: national parks, refuges, and wilderness areas. ALC founder Ken Ivory, a Utah state legislator, has written that Western states should be more like Illinois, with less than 5 percent federal land. Currently, National Park Service lands alone make up 3.5 percent of all land in the U.S.