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Piebald Deer: To Shoot or Not to Shoot

Piebald Deer: To Shoot or Not to Shoot

These photos force the question: where legal, would you shoot a white deer?
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from peteyraymond wrote 1 year 23 weeks ago

David Castle, that's my plan if I ever shoot one. I would love to have a tanned piebald hide hanging on my wall!

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from Dave Castle wrote 1 year 23 weeks ago

Not only would I shoot one, I have shot two of them. One twenty three years ago and one two years ago. I have spotted two this year and will take them as well it i have the chance. The hides look great tanned.

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from jds599 wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

From a genetic standpoint, there is no advantage for selecting for a trait that does not increase the fitness of the population. However, in states that prevent the killing of piebald/albino deer it is advantageous to have those traits. I'm assuming that there is no sexual selection among the species in which does or bucks prefer to mate with a piebald/albino deer. Due to the fact that native predators are fewer today than in the past, more of these genetic anomalies are seen in nature. In an area where more predators are present, most of these anomalies are selected against. In Missouri, where I'm from, the MDC has implemented an APR (Antler Point Restriction) in many counties. A legal buck must have at least four points on one side to be legally harvested. What I'm saying is that natural selection is limited in heavily hunting game, such as deer. We have adjusted regulations, and that doesn't necessarily equate to the most fit individuals of a population surviving to pass their alleles into the next generation.

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from Sam Cullis wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

My theory on the piebald deer coloration is it is a throwback to the time of glaciers ... being brown was bad then ... you stood out from the background and were easy prey. There is also a population with significant piebalds on the grounds of the NBS in Gaithersburg MD. With no hunting there for decades, the deer are relatively unafraid of humans. You can't touch them, but you can walk right up to them.

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from Landrover wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Thwack!!! Non-issue where legal!

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from LovesOutdoors wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I never shot a piebald but I have trail cam photos of a piebald buck for the last three years. I even past him up, the last two hunting seasons. This year he has a nice eight point rack of antlers. I posted him many times on the Outdoor Life Bragging Board photos and the editors posted him in their photo selections a couple times. He been missing for seven weeks and the archery season started on September 3rd. I hope he is not in piebald heaven.
Like the saying goes "snooze you loose".

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from Frank Gryncewicz wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Have seen only one with no shot opportunity. Would I have taken the shot a resounding “YES”.
Good shooting young lady …… truly a trophy of a life time.

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from Frank Gryncewicz wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Have seen only one with no shot opportunity. Would I have taken the shot a resounding “YES”.
Good shooting young lady …… truly a trophy of a life time.

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from Herbie wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I am a licensed deer breeder/farmer in TX. I am of the opinion that the piebald genetic will increase the value of my livestock. So much so, that I am AIing(artificially inseminating)several does with semen from a piebald buck. I will in turn keep the pie bald genetics separate from the rest of the herd, as to limit the occurrence of the mutation.

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from Tom Wandrych wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Darn right I would shoot it. You can't eat the hide.

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from mtemplet wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Played hide-n-seek with a 4 pt piebald, way back when that was legal in PA. A legal buck is a legal buck nomatter what color.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I would shoot a piebald but not an albino. I've seen several in Wisconsin and I don't see anything wrong with leaving them alone.

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from huntfishtrap wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I'd shoot a piebald without hesitation. There's no good reason not to, and it would make the trophy of a lifetime.

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from Henry Grondin wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I would shoot any legal deer in whatever state I was hunting. I am a true "Deer Hunter"!! Not a Horn or Trophy hunter!

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from Bob Hansen wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Hi...

Hey...a deer is a deer. I see no reason not to take one. Hide color would also be considered a bonus.

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from baffisherman wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I once saw a nice piebald buck chasing a doe on the Sunday before deer season opened in Pennsylvania. I would have shot him in a heartbeat if I had seen him the next day, but no such luck. Would have made a neat mount to hang on my wall.

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from luketolson wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I do not judge deer based on their skin color. That is plain wrong. They are all equally delicious on the inside!!!

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from Rick Hamilton wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I talked to a vet friend of mine and usually when this happens it is a sign of a heard that has to much interbreeding. This would lead eventually to albino or what we are starting to see here in Texas a totally black deer (opposite of albino). I don't know if this is true, but we have been trying to manage our herd better.

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from Geoffrey Ulrey wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

If it were in season and a mature Buck or even nice young doe or button buck... I'd wack one in heartbeat!

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from scoony24 wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I saw a 6 point piebald once about 10 years ago on our farm. Only saw him for 1 season..and that was it. I would have taken him if he was a little larger.

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from JM wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I wouldn't treat a piebald deer any differently than I would treat a normally colored deer.

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from JM wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I wouldn't treat a piebald deer any differently than I would treat a normally colored deer.

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from Sam Cullis wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

My theory on the piebald deer coloration is it is a throwback to the time of glaciers ... being brown was bad then ... you stood out from the background and were easy prey. There is also a population with significant piebalds on the grounds of the NBS in Gaithersburg MD. With no hunting there for decades, the deer are relatively unafraid of humans. You can't touch them, but you can walk right up to them.

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from jds599 wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

From a genetic standpoint, there is no advantage for selecting for a trait that does not increase the fitness of the population. However, in states that prevent the killing of piebald/albino deer it is advantageous to have those traits. I'm assuming that there is no sexual selection among the species in which does or bucks prefer to mate with a piebald/albino deer. Due to the fact that native predators are fewer today than in the past, more of these genetic anomalies are seen in nature. In an area where more predators are present, most of these anomalies are selected against. In Missouri, where I'm from, the MDC has implemented an APR (Antler Point Restriction) in many counties. A legal buck must have at least four points on one side to be legally harvested. What I'm saying is that natural selection is limited in heavily hunting game, such as deer. We have adjusted regulations, and that doesn't necessarily equate to the most fit individuals of a population surviving to pass their alleles into the next generation.

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from Geoffrey Ulrey wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

If it were in season and a mature Buck or even nice young doe or button buck... I'd wack one in heartbeat!

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from luketolson wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I do not judge deer based on their skin color. That is plain wrong. They are all equally delicious on the inside!!!

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from Bob Hansen wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Hi...

Hey...a deer is a deer. I see no reason not to take one. Hide color would also be considered a bonus.

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from Henry Grondin wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I would shoot any legal deer in whatever state I was hunting. I am a true "Deer Hunter"!! Not a Horn or Trophy hunter!

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from mtemplet wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Played hide-n-seek with a 4 pt piebald, way back when that was legal in PA. A legal buck is a legal buck nomatter what color.

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from Frank Gryncewicz wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Have seen only one with no shot opportunity. Would I have taken the shot a resounding “YES”.
Good shooting young lady …… truly a trophy of a life time.

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from Rick Hamilton wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I talked to a vet friend of mine and usually when this happens it is a sign of a heard that has to much interbreeding. This would lead eventually to albino or what we are starting to see here in Texas a totally black deer (opposite of albino). I don't know if this is true, but we have been trying to manage our herd better.

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from huntfishtrap wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I'd shoot a piebald without hesitation. There's no good reason not to, and it would make the trophy of a lifetime.

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from DSMbirddog wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I would shoot a piebald but not an albino. I've seen several in Wisconsin and I don't see anything wrong with leaving them alone.

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from Herbie wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I am a licensed deer breeder/farmer in TX. I am of the opinion that the piebald genetic will increase the value of my livestock. So much so, that I am AIing(artificially inseminating)several does with semen from a piebald buck. I will in turn keep the pie bald genetics separate from the rest of the herd, as to limit the occurrence of the mutation.

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from Frank Gryncewicz wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Have seen only one with no shot opportunity. Would I have taken the shot a resounding “YES”.
Good shooting young lady …… truly a trophy of a life time.

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from LovesOutdoors wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I never shot a piebald but I have trail cam photos of a piebald buck for the last three years. I even past him up, the last two hunting seasons. This year he has a nice eight point rack of antlers. I posted him many times on the Outdoor Life Bragging Board photos and the editors posted him in their photo selections a couple times. He been missing for seven weeks and the archery season started on September 3rd. I hope he is not in piebald heaven.
Like the saying goes "snooze you loose".

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from Landrover wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Thwack!!! Non-issue where legal!

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from Dave Castle wrote 1 year 23 weeks ago

Not only would I shoot one, I have shot two of them. One twenty three years ago and one two years ago. I have spotted two this year and will take them as well it i have the chance. The hides look great tanned.

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from peteyraymond wrote 1 year 23 weeks ago

David Castle, that's my plan if I ever shoot one. I would love to have a tanned piebald hide hanging on my wall!

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from scoony24 wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I saw a 6 point piebald once about 10 years ago on our farm. Only saw him for 1 season..and that was it. I would have taken him if he was a little larger.

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from baffisherman wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

I once saw a nice piebald buck chasing a doe on the Sunday before deer season opened in Pennsylvania. I would have shot him in a heartbeat if I had seen him the next day, but no such luck. Would have made a neat mount to hang on my wall.

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from Tom Wandrych wrote 1 year 24 weeks ago

Darn right I would shoot it. You can't eat the hide.

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